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I think they must be including the two years before it gets built in that calculation. The fuel mileage alone is going to make this expensive to own.

On the bright side, this makes me think that maybe the Grumpier Bronco build wasn't quite so bad. So much work to actually make the utility so much worse than stock.

My entire Bronco order is little more than rumor and innuendo along side an email from Ford claiming I placed it. I've got nothing of substance to offer!

Love that the Hummer EV is out there. It's out of my range, but gives me hope that one day there will be an EV out there that I'd want to own. Totally can't help you, but I hope whatever you choose gives you all the happiness.

Congratulations on both! This is the encouragement that keeps me coming around around. Enjoy it all!

No Vin, it'll be awhile, but... 2 door, Basesquash 2.3 in Erruption Green. Looking forward to this.

Yeah, that's a hard pass unless you really want it that bad. Try Ford, sure, but there's not much they seem to be doing to hold dealers to MSRP on Raptors.

Chips aren't interchangeable like that. It's like saying that you should just use a starter that is laying around because you ran out of alternators. I suspect Ford would clear out the lots if they could, which is probably why they're attempting the no chip ship.

I'd really love to see some kind of money back cause. For example, No heated seat after a year, fine. But give me back the money I PAID for it. Ford will never do that. For me, I ordered a base with Sasquatch... I'd take delivery regardless of most things being turned off, but it depends on...

The devil is in the details. An I okay buying a stripped down Bronco sooner. Yes. I bought a Basesquash. Am I okay paying extra for features that don't work? Not really. If I had ordered the lux package, I wouldn't be happy paying if it didn't work in full. I'd want some kind of credit or...

Yes please... Of course it's five years out if they even decide to produce it.

Neither... I like the open air ride, but seeing the Convertible parked all Winter is a bummer. I like the Bronco far more than the recent Jeep offerings, though the Gladiator is tempting.

Moving on from that... Anything AWD out there beside the Crosstrek that looks interesting? I'd jump at a plug in renegade, but the Wrangler 4e just doesn't appeal. Gas mileage is only a part of the equation, I put on less than 5k miles a year... But I'd like something that can navigate these...

If nothing else, that is a dealerships Red Flag. I'd consider trying to find out more. If they game the system with orders, it wouldn't surprise me if they give you a huge surprise ADM too.

My understanding is that allocation is never known entirely. Sales and conditions every quarter effect dealership allocations from what I understand.

Well, the Crosstrek Hybrid is tempting. Same price point as my Bronco build too.

None of the vehicles I want have a decent electric AWD/4wd version, yet.

I'll be considering my options before I have to put the Convertible away this fall. Until thin I'll see what happens.

Absolutely, it's the whole reason to get the Advanced Package. Set it and forget it all Winter long. Missed that since my old Discovery died of old age. (Perfect Aluminum body, completely rusted through frame)

Yeah. I've priced out the Gladiator a few times. If it came in at the same pricing and capability as my ordered Basesquash I'd probably jump.