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Interesting. If it was me, I'd insist they do it - for the personal liability protection. The dealership really has no skin in the game.

Yes - I mentioned this in an earlier post in this thread: From the video evidence, the flat nuts definitely pulled out of the bumper on the passenger side - this could have started due to bending of the frame horns before they failed, or it could have just been very high twisting forces on the...

@swamp2 I agree with most of what you said. However, I don't have any hard data to quantify the risk, and I doubt you do either. Saying it is a fourth order effect is speculation. The risk is not zero, so I thought it was worth sharing. That said, if I owned that bumper, I would add the...

Thanks for the info! I was hoping someone was in the know. Glad he gets a free replacement. Sounds like it was a very hard hit. You said a flat strap was hooked to both recovery points, how long was the strap?

It seems Ford thinks it’s an issue: the Ford Performance winch kit includes frame horn reinforcements, and it requires an airbag software update after installation. Changing crash dynamics is kind of by definition changing acceleration rates of the different parts involved, so, I think...

BTW disclaimer regarding tradeoffs/risks of adding frame horn reinforcement, @zuke put it best:

Thanks for clarifying - I think everyone that posted in this thread agrees that frame supports should be used with that bumper. From the video evidence, the flat nuts definitely pulled out of the bumper on the passenger side - this could have started due to bending of the frame horns before...

What exactly is overblown? FYI the person who lost the bumper was being recovered from the bumper’s recovery points, not from winching.

Thanks good suggestion. Title changed.

To clarify, a bridle of any length/angle puts more inward stress on each tow point, but it still considerably reduces the in-line and total stress compared to not using a bridle unless your angle is 120 degrees or greater. Agreed you should ideally use the longest possible bridle to minimize...

Starting in the video below at 15:50, apparently a broken Bronco was being towed in by a Raptor, and at some point the Raptor gave it a hard yank, completely detaching the aftermarket front bumper, winch and all. My observations from studying the video: the driver's side frame horn mount is...

@PorpoiseBlue I just received mine and installed - works great. You're a rockstar. Thanks!

I found these videos on their website: https://www.broncosunshades.com/installation

That's not misaligned with what he's saying in the video. Did you watch the video? He pinned the disclaimer regarding onroad/smooth road use, so I shared that - I think he wanted people to know in rougher offroad situations where 4H/4L can be used, you'll save wear on the clutch mechanism...

An important pinned comment made by Robert Pepper in his You Tube video: "4A is an ONROAD mode only, and for smooth dirt roads. It is NOT for offroad use. If you are on a low-traction surface, for example a rough dirt road, use 4H. This includes mud, snow, rocks etc. That is what 4H is for...

For those of you with the "Advanced 4x4" option, Robert Pepper just dropped this video on Ford's system. He's based in Australia and just purchased a new Ranger, but it's basically the same system on the Bronco. Why 4A is your Ford's friend Edit: An important pinned comment made by Robert...

@PorpoiseBlue I just ordered some - thanks for offering this product!

Sounds like you’re doing a lot of off-road with them? What pressures were you running them off road? Just curious why so many punctures.

My local dealer still shows 50 2024's in stock, with prices marked down $5,500 - $9,000 below MSRP depending on model. They're probably not in a hurry to get 2025's.

For those of us Sasquatch owners that are part of the rear shock recall, it would be nice if Ford offered an 'upgrade' option. Since Ford will have to pay for 2 new shocks and installation labor, wouldn't it be great if they offered to upgrade all 4 shocks at a discounted price? Would seem...