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You prepared to be disappointed?

Badlands directs to a blank page now too.

The link for B&P now directs to this... https://shop.ford.com/configure//2021/model/customize/badlands so things are being changed... starting to chub up a little.

Still redirects to all the models for me.

It won't... I had several iterations of the Android Blackberry devices for corporate phones... could not rekindle the flame.

They brought Data back in the new Star Trek series... thats what I was on about.

Lol I gathered that. I think like 1% of our smartphone sales when I was still with corporate were blackberry lol.

I still have my Bold 9000 lol. I'm talking in the touchscreen OS world that is dominant now. Hell even Blackberry went to Android.

That has always been my biggest gripe with my Apple stuff... but they keep giving me just enough to keep me happy, and they have universally been less problematic for me.

COME ON B&P!!! (wanted to at least say something on-topic here) I wasn't talking about the root of it all, but the modern touchscreen based android that we have today is based on the GUI Apple brought out with the first iPhone, when they saw the response to it, they very quickly switched gears...

I mean the whole "apple copied this" statement is pretty weak considering android as it is today was a direct copy off of the original iOS. Its been a bunch of back and forth since then.

I can't remember if this was the case already but when i was looking @ the badlands page there is a build and price button... with this link... https://www.ford.com/suvs/bronco/2021/models/bronco-badlands/#$bp Of course it doesn't do anything but maybe thats a good sign? Or just BAU.

The only way I see diesel making a comeback in non heavy duty applications stateside will be if renewable diesel really takes off here (supposed to be cheaper to produce). I would love a diesel manual bronco but I'm not getting my hopes up.

I mean it really varies, life wise, you could burn one out in 30k miles if you suck at driving... or in my case, my BMW has 155k miles on it, original clutch, and ive been running over 100hp over stock for 130k of those miles... so its all relative.

Yeah based off my understanding and our dealerships communications from Ford directly, that is 100% fake news, unless they are able to take liberties that I am not aware of.

My f150 has sport mode... its overrated.... motor has plenty of torque to be upshift happy, it gets down to business in its clunky 10 speed way when you hammer it... just manually shift it or limit the highest gear it can go up to, assuming the Bronco will have the same setup. All sport mode...

Was just about to say this. its still nowhere in B&P.

As of now i'm leaning towards AMB with a black roof. I kinda think anyway i go its gonna be a black top.

v6+manual for this guy.... even if they screw us on top options, paint or aftermarket options can fix any of that.

If you're looking at the "vehicles" section, its always been there. Just takes you to the current info available. If you go under shop and then build & price, its still BAU. I finally bit the bullet and put in my reservation last night for 2025 delivery.