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Yeah, there were a few jerks on that thread that should be banned. @DealerInsider has been more than fair, it is great to deal with. His Raptor position was very fair for what it is....

I don't get that...if the mod didn't cause the problem, then it gets covered. There is no grand problem out there of dealers not doing warranty work because of unrelated mods. These hypotheticals about going to court to battle for it aren't reality. Do people occasionally get screwed? Yes, but...

Okay, since you're just acting out of a sense of duty to your fellow board members, Ill answer for you: No lift company in existence is going to warranty parts that fail due to increased wear due to increased CV angles...but you knew that. Like evey product that comes out, we will see when...

That's incorrect, They have been scheduling MY21s fairly regularly, and still will be...all soft tops. No more MICs unless you already have a VIN.

I drove another Wildtrak this weekend (with my 9 year old daughter along), and I liked the vehicle even more than I did the 1st time. The soft top was down when we showed up, and he just handed us the keys and said take it as long as you want it. I told the dealer I think it is the best vehicle...

Are you considering buying it?

They obviously discussed it internally, and decided to honor what a rep there told you, even though it wasn't approved by the GM...they are doing what they told you they would do. I don't see the problem now.

At this point I would add Sasquatch With a soft top, he's probably being overly pessimistic. If you really want to find out where you sit....find out how many allocations he had this year, how many orders, and how many soft top orders he has remaining / not scheduled. Then you can kind of...

Then you shouldn't have brought it up...your argument against capitalism was the worst I have ever heard...that the "working class" (whatever that is, we all work) couldn't afford a Bronco without a reservation...oh the horror! They actually have to either 1) Make a reservation or 2) Work harder...

Really? You ever been to a socialist country? You would have everyone be equally "poor" than have the opportunity for everyone to achieve greatness....and our poor live better than most country's top 10%. You want a Bronco? Work for it...achieve; you can if you want to because you live under...

So, if you're a dealer and have abandoned orders, how would you decide who gets them other than selling to the person that would pay the most for them? I don't get it...there is huge demand for the vehicle, so how else would they sell them? Orders are completely different, and dealers who said...

They’re all “reserved” right now…you’re seeing abandoned orders or ghost orders being marked up…not stock units….

Not sure how that’s a joke…they told dealers no changes to buildable orders after 9/30…this just reminds them of that.

I don’t think there are any other ones…they are building as many per day as they have soft tops available, and they have surplus capacity for everything else. If you’re a soft top, there’s generally nothing more you can do to get built.

Looks good. I ordered one for mine, this one is a no-brainer over the stock one, as you lose no clearance compared to stock and it’s 1/3 of the price.

I have operated under the guidance that it is safer for the frame to use the factory recovery point. The factory recovery point(s) is mounted to the side member, and pulling places force directly to that member, where the rear hitch could add twisting force. Others on here have explained it...

No. You keep the tow hook...you want to recover using that hook.

Dude, you just put in your reservation last week, and you weren't expecting to get pulled...just go order now from a low priced dealer with a price in writing this time before the order is completed. Chapman of Horsham is only a state over, and you can still order from them below invoice....now.

Ok. Then try to show up without the original hard top on and get the replacement. Good luck with that. Let us all know how that works out.

It isn’t about mindset sir, it’s about reality of what they can do. If you don’t want to accept it, then don’t. Hang out in fantasy land. Most dealers will be ethical and stand by their commitments. Some won’t. There is little to stop them if they don’t want to. If you think you have to release...