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You said the key word... cheap. I don’t disagree, but 90% of the problems people have with Jeeps is either poorly installed lifts or cheap lifts. A quality lift that is properly installed drives as well, if not better than stock. The problem is that people don’t want to spend 2.5k or more, plus...

Rubicons can run 35s with no lift without rubbing. (Watch the Lite Bright vid on YouTube when they are testing their JLU before they lifted it). They certainly will if you add bump Stops to limit wheel travel like Ford does on the Squatch. A significant amount of the body on JLUs is aluminum as...

So no, you haven’t driven a JLU and you haven’t seen a Bronco in person. The argument isn’t whether a 392 is “worth the price” that is subjective. (For a person that has the money and wants a brand new Jeep with a V8 it is the cheapest way to do it) You said that the Base Bronco was a “way...

There are plenty of valid reasons why a person might make that decision. Calling it “much nicer” is asinine though. Especially when you consider there is a pretty good chance that the person in question has never 1) seen a Bronco in person and 2) never put any mileage of note behind the wheel of...

Anything that most people would prefer in a daily driver is going to be better in a loaded Rubi vs a base Bronco... Leather, Dual automatic climate control, 8.4 screen with upgraded Alpine stereo, heated seats, heated steering wheel, soft touch dash and panels (that is a big deal to me. Even the...

Do you really think a base Bronco is a “much nicer” vehicle than a fully loaded Rubicon? Some of the fanboys on this page are absolutely delusional

Unlike the trim colors on the Bronco, you can get a Rubicon without the red trim

My JLU Rubicon with the 3.6 consistently gets 20mpg in mixed driving. Driving to my hunting lease on a flat 2 lane at 60-65mph I get 22. If people are expecting much more than that from the Bronco they will probably be disappointed

While this is true, Jeep is more consumer friendly when adding options. They don’t make you opt for a “Lux” package to have the upgraded stereo. You can order a Jeep to your specific tastes. A person shouldn’t have to pay for all of the nanny electronics to have heated seats, a heated steering...

I can promise you that Ford could do the same on the Bronco.

You don’t say... If a dealer asks for a non refundable deposit of “thousands” of dollars on a sight unseen vehicle then they are going to be very disappointed with their conversion rate of initial reservations.

who in their right mind would put down a non refundable deposit in the “thousands” on a vehicle they have never even seen in person?

During the Q&A the “brand manager” even said that the pricing was correct, and said it was a great deal. What a cluster...

Yes, Jeep charges for the automatic, but you can also buy a Jeep for well under MSRP. Since the increase I can buy a 2021 Rubi 4 door fairly loaded (including leather) for less than a 2 door Badlands with the 2.7 and High package... and I can get it today.

There won’t be 1% of buyers that purchase a hard top at a later date. . If someone is willing to drop 3k+ on a hard top they aren’t going to change their mind over the cost of a harness.

Jeep is the same. Why would a manufacturer spend the money to run wiring and a washer tube to the rear of thousands of Broncos/Jeeps for the very small percentage of people that would end up buying a hardtop at a later date?

That is irrelevant if theft is your concern. You can have zero removable panels and if a person wants in they will just cut the top. I had it happen more than once when I owned a soft top Jeep.

My guess is there will be a lot of people that want to go aftermarket wheels and 35s rather than pay $2500 for the Sasquatch package. I’m considering it because, even if I stick with 33s at first, I know I will eventually be running 35s

B&P will allow you to add 4.7 gears on the Badlands for no charge and without going Sasquatch

I believe they are an 8.5” wheel so yes, they would be 0 offset