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You would realistically expected to be able to move up to a more expensive model than you had reserved and Ford would hold the price?

Bull bar comes with it, but you do not need to install it. No bull!

I think it does ... the literature says no because they are looking at the default bumper from the factory, Ward told me it will work with any model equipped from the factory with the Modular bumper ... hopefully they fix their literature for 2022.

Looking at the installation instructions, the bill bar can not be installed should you choose.

Have ya found a spot for that? Aren’t you still waiting on your horse? I know you are an enlightened 2 door guy?!

Nice … I like that that winch is so low profile!

I think the constraints are length and height …

Rough Country made a deal of only their winch … did you check the space and good to go?

What winch are you going to use?

It is cheap - requires some cutting of the OE skid plate or did you buy theirs?

Looks like a hard-on!

I would guess Ford will prohibit them from selling this design in the aftermarket as it contains Ford proprietary engineering.

I do not know - I won’t have the cam - I think the key is to relocate the solenoid box from the top of winch to somewhere else - no one has a clear idea on that yet.

The Rough Country package comes with their winch, though I think you can buy it without a winch.

I agree - they have an integrated design where they control all engineering and liability. Buy the package and sell the winch?

It a package?

The other alternative I am pondering is the Warn Elite bumper with the Zeon winch about the same cost - a little cleaner look - I don’t do big rocks so the lack of the ability to take of bumper ends is not a huge thing in my book. I am getting a Basesquatch so sensors and cameras are not a...

Not sure it needs to be ugly to work?

Very true … I may order the Mod bumper and then decide which way to go … I am thinking the 2.3 so maybe there will be slightly more room.