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When you complain about complaining you just add to the complaining.

There is no way that $10K in changes was necessary to make your build date move up. Literally, remove hardtop is the only change that would have an impact. If you added $10K to your build you either did it because you wanted those additional options, or you're the least patient person on earth...

See you in 2030!

You could join hands with me as I try to cast some voodoo on Ford to get me a build date. I've never been more anxious to visit Iowa as I've been the last month waiting for a build date.

I fear things will get a lot more tenuous for a while when some members are already receiving Broncos while others are still unsure of they'll even be getting a '21 or not.

I think the target market for the Maverick are people (like me) who don't care one bit for the opinion of "truck people". I currently drive a Fiat 500 and work at a manufacturing plant in a rural community regularly. I get so much shit from the production people there about it, but eh it's all...

The Santa Cruz reported 23 MPG average and we don't know pricing yet (as far as I'm aware), but I can't imagine it'd be significantly lower than the Maverick (at best price competitive), so unless the Santa Cruz is just significantly better comfort, ride quality, reliability than the Maverick I...

Very good chance once the Bronco is paid off that an XLT of this becomes the second car/everyday car for my house.

Might as well send it to the wrecker.

I mean the Bronco does everything it's designed for better than the Maverick, but there are a lot of things the Maverick will do better than the Bronco. Pavement ride comfort+noise. Payload. Towing. FUEL EFFICIENY (by a 2:1 margin). Storage space. Schlepping gear. Price. Can only assume...

Yeah, I mean once the Broncos paid off, we may end up looking for a more utilitarian second option. In three years the landscape may change some, but I. Certainly would be looking at the lower end version of this with a couple comfort options as a second vehicle choice.

After going to build and price there is not a lot you can do to crank the price up. I added the Lariat Luxury Package with First Edition package and selected every option available with every accessory available and it came in at $36K including delivery fee.

Ha, literally within minutes of making the change was back on build and price double checking what the jump from a a BD 2.7L auto was to a Badlands 2.3L manual just to confirm if it was now worth switching to badlands, keeping the 2.3L but getting the manual with the mid.

Well ladies and gents you've helped me make up my mind. Giving up on the 4-banger life I've been living for my past three vehicles and getting the V6. Thank you everyone for your thoughts and feedback.

Yeah, if I were currently built up as a manual 2.3L there would be no way I was switching. Unfortunately this is a shared vehicle for me and my wife and living in Minnesota her one and only option she really wants is the heated seats. I give up the manual so she can have the mid, but she also...

It's auto for the 2.3L as I got the mid for the heated seats

One of the primary deciding factors between 2.3L and 2.7L for me was that in addition to the up front cost, I'd be paying more for it over time with worse MPG;however, it seems with the Black Diamond that is not the case. I'm now debating hard on whether I should switch to the 2.7L, but with a...

I mean, the engine isn't the limiting factor in the towing capacity.

If you're doing 52-60mph all highway I am positive your mileage will be above epa estimate

You're looking at the wrong part of my question. I can easily accept that extra weight of the Black Diamond or even the different gearing leads to lower MPG. That makes sense, what then doesn't is that the 2.7L Black Diamond apparently gets same MPG as the 2.7L BB, Base, OBX.