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  1. Interior should be expected in off road vehicle

    I’m starting to think Ford is in a BIG hurry to get the 21’s sold (not just ordered) because there is going to be fierce wave of competition coming directly on the Bronco’s heels. And they are working against so many obstacles (mainly supply chain bottlenecks). The good news for them is that...
  2. We can’t get multiple tops?!?

    Not to be alarmist, But, you should definitely check in with your dealer because April 8th was the deadline to switch your order to the Mic top. If your had an order for mod top or duel tops and your dealer didn’t update the order, your order might get bumped to MY 22.
  3. Why is OBX the only model that comes with 18 inch wheels ?

    Although i wish it did have 17's, I get why it doesn't. I tend to see this as more of a beach lifestyle car and I'm guessing Ford does as well. I saw a stat a few years ago stating that 75% of SOBX real estate was owned by people that actually live in Raleigh, NC. So people in the area tend to...
  4. Anybody else concerned about plastic interior looking cheap?

    Vinyl wrap on the dash seems like a really cool idea. Never thought about that. Agree on the idea of perceptions. I tend to geek out on materials and interior build quality. I’m less concerned about bells and whistles, especially since pretty much everything digital in driven through the screen...
  5. Is the 12" screen really an upgrade we all want?

    Yup. There’s a dark mode that turns on automatically when it’s dark or you can set it manually. AND I’m pretty sure there’s also a relaxation mode which turn off the screen and simply show the time.
  6. More Initial Impressions with slightly different perspective

    The numbers came from Squatched Badlands with 35's vs 2021 Defender which has stock air suspension. I didn't make them up. So, actually the Defender is stock and the Badland's is non-stock with a lift from the Sasquatch package and 35 inch tires (neither which is stock) and that's what the...
  7. More Initial Impressions with slightly different perspective

    Both the Defender and the squatched Badland's have a ground clearance of 11.5 inches in the four door. Defender has a higher departure angle of 40 degrees compared to the Bronco's 37 degrees. Bronco best the Defender in approach angle of 43.2 degrees vs 38. Defender bests the Bronco in wading...
  8. More Initial Impressions with slightly different perspective

    This seems a little ridiculous to me. Firstly, if the vehicle doesn't have quality materials, it's going to fall apart pretty quickly (especially in some of the conditions Ford is touting). Secondly, there is no indication whatsoever that the Bronco is any more capable off-road than the...
  9. More Initial Impressions with slightly different perspective

    If you are talking about the part where I pointed out that capability and luxury are not mutually exclusive, I think my point stands and the cars to which I referred accommodate both. Price has nothing to do with that statement. If you are talking about economies of scale where I did not...
  10. Got my VIN Number! Anyone else?

    If this is true, it's great news for everyone. Personally, I don't see why Ford would wait until April 8th to build an order. The order is still an order.
  11. More Initial Impressions with slightly different perspective

    Take out the "small outside footprint" and I think it's totally doable. A car doesn't have to feel cheap or compact to be rugged. Just look at the Land Cruiser or the Defender. I'm sure Ford was deliberate in their design of the interior space so I'm good with whatever it is. I'm not expecting...
  12. More Initial Impressions with slightly different perspective

    I had an 98 Discovery and almost all of the plastic cracked after about 10 years. Eventually, even the dashboard was sagging. I would have to push it towards the windshield every time I drove it. So, the dash is something I pay attention to. What really impressed me way more than anything else...
  13. So, you’re now MY22... are you changing your build?

    January? Is that typical? Seems like most 22’s from other manufacturers will be on the lots by end of summer. I had heard fall, which seemed late to me. But January?
  14. A slightly different First Edition

    That’s just car porn. Let’s not confuse porn with reality. It ain’t real until it’s real. Know what I mean?
  15. A slightly different First Edition

    True. Still, I wonder how the Bronco looks at all given I’ve yet to actually see one.🤔
  16. Anyone else reserve the Hummer EV SUV?

    I put a reservation in just to see how this all plays out. If all these green energy initiatives actually get through congress, then by 2023 we could see some serious tax incentives that could make gas vehicles less appealing. Things like exorbitant gas taxes and property taxes on gas vehicles...
  17. 2.7L, or 2.3L. Help me make the right decision.

    But I think that LR 2.0 v4 is assisted by the mild hybrid which Bronco doesn’t have. I’d be curious as to how much the electric turbocharging actually contributes to the performance specs vs the stop/start feature.
  18. Now I've Gone And Done It!

    I think Area 51 is one of those colors that would benefit from the white mod top.
  19. Another hypothetical for ya, because why not?

    LR Defender no doubt. Only a few things held me back from ordring one a few days ago when the one on the lot sold from under me less than an hour into the deal. 1) No removable top and sunroof doesn’t open nearly as much as it should, 2) fixed back window on rear door so it can’t be opened, 3)...


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