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Yes I agree with that. But there were some around here that are/were concerned that after placing an order, unethical dealers could start monkeying around with add on fees so that you wouldn't drive it off the lot so that they could sell it with an ADM.

Interesting. Seems they split the middle between us and the dealers. We get what we want, the ability to change dealers, dealers get what they want with not having to worry about a last second change to another dealer. So now both consumer and dealer have an incentive to negotiate. If we...

I'm thinking that the High Clearance Suspension is what comes with Samsquatch pkg. Both Wildtrac and FE come with that package already so it is standard.

I'm sorry for your loss and I know that Bronco is going to be special for you. I live right down the road and will be looking for offroading pointers from someone with some experience.

Same. I remember hearing for the first time "Proud to be an American" by Lee Greenwood in my dad's bronco. Everytime I hear any version of that song I always think about him and those times. So I'm picking one up a Badlands for myself and heavily leaning towards a Base for my 15 year old son...

Lot's of speculation (along with lots of grains of salt) that the samsquatch pkg on Badlands will not be as expensive as it will be on the other trims. So it might not push the pricing up to and maybe a little more than a Wildtrak, but perhaps not way more. Either way, assuming the pricing...

I'm wondering the same thing. I've been under the impression that the optional "high clearance suspension" is part of the samsquatch package.

I've heard that laugh out of grown men all my life, and it sounds neither nervous or sympathetic imho. My point as previously posted in this thread is that due to only 13 seconds of video, we don't know if it was a difficult situation because the vehicle simply couldn't perform, or if it was a...

Not sure either. But something got his attention in a good way.

I understand where you are coming from. But I wouldn't let the video get in your head too much at this point. It's only a 13 second video. And for all we know the driver purposely took an incorrect line to demonstrate how lockers or some other stock feature can get you out of a jam or...

The reality is that nobody is going to overpay. People will only pay what they think it is worth. If someone offers you $10-$20K over what you paid for it, they think it's worth it. Doesn't really matter their reasoning or opinion, it's their reasoning or opinion. I will only pay what I...

Are you saying 33s easily fit on the the Base? This is what I want to do but can't figure out if that can "easily" done without lift kits, etc.

Not that there's anything wrong with that ;)

And maybe that was the point of the video ?‍♂️

Nice. Congrats.

They were clearly impressed with something, but with only 13 seconds of video I don't know what it is. Perhaps the 13 seconds before that we don't see would tell the whole story. I am a complete noob to all of this but want to begin my off road journey. So I chose the Badlands and wanted...

I want to run 33’s on by base and change the wheels. Any idea if that will require suspension mods such as lift kit?

I believe this is what he says

I can't make it out either. It kind of appears he was driving that line and couldn't go any further. Then engaged a mode (lockers, sway disconnect, etc) to show that what it could do. No way to tell how/why the video was set up with only 13 seconds, but they shot the video to prove something...

Given the events of today seems to me that if you can't deliver a 2021 until 2022, then 2021 capacity has been met