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Nope, I was wrong. You're right, it's only available on the 2.3. My bad!

for what it's worth rough country has a hidden winch that mounts under the bumper behind that front plate. It's on back order though :(. It even relocates the winch remote connection to under the hood. You'll have to open the hood to use the winch... first world problems I guess?

I think that this is probably the best way to put it. Even more so for homes. My wife and I paid 1.9MM for our home that was literally sold 3 years ago for 1.2. They were asking 1.4MM, but just like everything else in the world right now, if you want something, it's going to cost you. We could...

Fair enough! Seats are pretty subjective anyhoo :p

Everything you're saying is all subjective. My point is there are numerous people on these here forums, and on the Facebook groups that seem to think people who paid more than MSRP by large sums of money are ignorant, or dumb. I'm merely pointing out that perhaps it's those people that are...

You need to find someone with outer banks and put your head in the headrest then haha. It's literally more comfy than my pillow. It's probably the most comfortable seat I've ever been in. And the color options are just awesome.

Very bottom of that price protection page says the following : " Final transaction details, including price, will be agreed upon by you and the dealer. " heh

Wranglers are exceptionally expensive. Why not buy a beater cash car until it's produced? You'll lose money giving that wrangler back when the bronco comes in.

Wouldn't that be the same as calling those people dumb for doing it? Perhaps the ones that say that are actually just as dumb because they can't get a job to afford it?

This is kind of an unfair way to judge people. I paid 20k over MSRP because I can. I wanted one right now, and I have the money to get what I want. The kind of people that are spending 70k on an outer banks, or 90k on a WT aren't doing it while working minimum wage jobs. You have to think about...