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Okay I laughed...

Thanks for the update - excited to see the final conversion rates in March. Standing by

I saw a Jeep once where they had a bolt on swing out tire carrier that had a bike rack built in, and then the somehow modded the tailgate into a flip down. It was pretty slick.

Agreed. I'd take a tight turning radius over departure angle any day... I need my U Turns quick.

We're all hoping the mT-88 is far superior to the MT-82 and shifts as it should. I'll probably get the 8 year powertrain-only ESP if the dealer gives me a good deal on it, peace of mind that if any issues come up it will be covered. The manual will be too much fun to pass up for me.

i too was in high school once... ;)

What was your reservation date?

I think in the long run the navy interior will hold more value. It may seem ugly now but it will be cool later. Just like the limited interiors of other cars. Either way, don’t buy it expecting to recoup your costs. The lease curve from Ford shows the higher trims will likely depreciate the most.

try the stereo!

I agree with your sentiment. My prior post was regarding full size trucks with short beds. It’s a lot of truck to have a short bed. Mid size truck is very different in my opinion and also more suv-like and more drivable. Also the payload is inclusive of passengers so if you’ve got 4 adults in a...

I said trucks that can haul anything worthwhile drive like crap (aka, not mid size trucks with ~1300 lb payload ratings, which isn't much more than a 2021 bronco)

Fair enough - i guess I would just use a roof rack for lumber material at that point, because in my opinion most trucks that can haul or tow anything worthwhile tend to drive like crap. It's a big concession in my mind. Edit: also did ford really give up anything from an offroad perspective...

what is the point of a pickup with a <6 foot bed? This whole concept is ridiculous. Unless you're hauling appliances on a regular basis and need the height, using it for only towing, or just like the look of a pickup, it's useless as a pickup without at least a 6ft bed. Also, the suspension...

everyone gets so riled up about the start stop. It works flawlessly on my f150 and i've compared my round trip commute with it on off and it makes a pretty sizeable difference on fuel costs when you're in stop and go. Also I wouldn't worry about the starter they are much beefier and specifically...

Yep like i said in my OP i'm definitely getting the manual, waiting for squatch... just itching for some first hand drive reports!

I hear you on the heated seats. I'm going manual squatch and just going to do heated/cooled katzkins installed aftermarket. Should extend the top-off season.

this coating craze will never make sense to me. ceramic, film. Your car comes from the factory with protection on it. it's called paint and clear coat, and it's highly engineered specifically to meet the demands of these vehicles. The paint on my f150 is incredibly stout and takes a serious...

I agree the lack of real information is frustrating. why can't they just give one to car and driver or an offroad magazine?

I think you may open a whole new can of worms with the diesel swap idea... my eyes just perked up a little bit.... i have dreams of a manual diesel...

makes sense - i wonder if the MT82 replacements were modified in any way, or maybe they used different oils once installed? Or maybe the earlier batches were just bad from a QC perspective? I remember reading a lot about it at one point but I wasn't sure if anyone ever actually came out and...