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  1. Interesting Thought on Release, B&P, and Launch/Production

    Are you sure that's not a Nissan Titan?
  2. Interesting Thought on Release, B&P, and Launch/Production

    Maybe, that is if you care more for the "hybrid" feature than you do for the old Jeep platform features like the Jeep death wobble, recirculating ball steering, etc, etc. And of course Jeep will be more than glad to charge you plenty for this mashup of new/old technology. Most of the folks on...
  3. 4-Door Too Small?

    They can always tag along in the Runner
  4. 4-Door Too Small?

    5. Buy the 2-door BL. Take the dog and whatever the two of you need to survive
  5. Subjective red flags I see... now that I've had some time to let the hype settle in...

    By the time Jeep came out with the 4 door Wrangler, the kids were grown and it no longer really made sense. Prior to that the two door Wrangler and a four door sedan had to make do...and it did. Fast forwarding to today, a two door Bronco fits the bill just as nicely as the Wrangler TJ did back...
  6. Interesting Thought on Release, B&P, and Launch/Production

    But the point is, there is no alternative...just smoke and mirrors. That is exactly what Jeep is doing and hoping that people fall for the oldest trick in the book.
  7. Interesting Thought on Release, B&P, and Launch/Production

    An announcement is one thing, actual introduction and production is something else. Doing it in time to met the Bronco head-on, highly unlikely. Hemi Wrangler, Hybrid, and PHEV all appear to be reworks of existing products. None are commitments based on a new product design. So Jeep crammed a...
  8. My dealer said they (Ford) won't actually fulfill all the orders

    Unfortunately, a lot can happen between now and several months down the road when your Bronco finally arrives. (The dealer says one thing today and something entirely different in 2021). It would be a bitter pill and a ding against Ford if your dealer pulled some last minute BS. But, you get to...
  9. My dealer said they (Ford) won't actually fulfill all the orders

    If a dealer exercised their right to "decline or cancel" an Order, it would appear that they would lose that vehicle if it hasn't been built. Based on what some dealers have said, right now they can't order Bronco's for stock. It's difficult to see an upside for a dealer to do this, but if they...
  10. Anyone else checking out the new Jeep vehicles?

    A very patient man, indeed.
  11. First Edition Bronco reservation on eBay for $15K

    People are going to do what people are going to do. Still, paying a premium for a used GT40 makes a lot more sense than paying a premium for a mass production used Bronco.
  12. Anyone else checking out the new Jeep vehicles?

    What everyone seems to forget is that the hybrid range steadily declines with time...physics is physics. If you keep a hybrid long enough, battery replacement is going to be an expensive reality. Then there's the inevitable problem of trade-in value. There aren't very many people looking for a...
  13. First Edition Bronco reservation on eBay for $15K

    What his ad implies is that you would be the first owner, not the second. Unless Ford is enforcing some sort of sales restrictions on buyers of Broncos, anyone can sell their Bronco "used" to someone else.
  14. Anyone else checking out the new Jeep vehicles?

    With FCA's track record, not much of a miss for Ford, actually probably a calculated move by Ford to let FCA announce first. Wouldn't want to be the one ponying up for a 4xe Rubicon, only to get smoked by Ford, when their offering comes out. I don't think people have figured out that Ford is...
  15. Anyone else checking out the new Jeep vehicles?

    4xE - We'll have to see 4xE Wrangler - You'd have to want it pretty badly at the price point that will be asked Grand Wagoneer - At $100K+ most people with that kind of coin aren't going to be thrilled with say, the standard Jeep experience of getting an oil change. Can't imagine Jeep raising...
  16. First Edition Bronco reservation on eBay for $15K

    Would suspect that Ford would flag any transaction whereby the reservation owner isn't the Bronco owner of record. The only way this would appear to fly is if the reservation owner rescinded his rights to the reservation (and subsequent build) and the dealer put the vehicle in inventory. From...
  17. First Edition Bronco reservation on eBay for $15K

    Per the guy's ad, it says (paraphrasing) that he will act as an agent to facilitate the transfer of the reservation. Selling a used Bronco is something different.
  18. First Edition Bronco reservation on eBay for $15K

    You just can’t fix stupid. Per Ford, you can’t transfer a reservation. Can’t imagine Ford changing the rules for this guy, especially since he’s broadcast his intentions to the world of eBay. If this is true, not sure how eBay would allow this ad to continue?
  19. Black Diamond Bronco Thread

    2-Door BD+2.7+Auto+Mid+Tow Cactus Grey


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