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I was at the LV one last November. During check-in, they told a few people about their credit (I wasn't one). Also agree if you are spending a large credit, do it in the morning - they ran out of some sizes by lunchtime. Lastly, don't underestimate how much of a difference driving a 4-door is...

Here's my take. You are driving trails you have never seen. It may be the first time you have ever been off roading. You may be driving a different version (e.g. 4-door vs. 2-door, Auto vs. Manual). Not sure why you wouldn't just pay the $75, which is probably less than you will spend on shirts...

First Ford, first American car owned in 40 years (Mazda/Acura/Honda/Infiniti/Subaru/BMW), but I did learn to drive on a '65 Dodge A100. However, if, BITD, I could have bought a GT350 or F150 Raptor without a $20k markup I likely would have (their markups really soured me on the brand). Loved it...

Understand - didn't mean to imply they were related other than by geography.

I've bought on car from a Serramonte dealer (not Ford) and shopped several others in the past, and almost all were universally overpriced and staffed with rude salespeople. Good to see at least one has acknowledged current conditions and is trying outreach thru forums like this.

Yes, it's possible you might need it if you panic or don't follow instructions. It's also a really small amount on top of the rest of the "free" day - you will likely buy more than that in the gift shop. If you are worried about some cosmetic pinstriping, try distracting your instructor with a...

I went in November and agree with the class/instructors/site. If you own/want a 2-door, grab an instructor early and ask/plead. There was 1 in each of the groups of 7, and I got one, using the excuse that I'm just not comfortable with something as long as a 4-door and that I DD a Miata and a...

Nice - thinking of something clever and where to put it...

Yes please. Sadly, the next article headline I read after this post was from R&T teasing a Sasquatch Bronco Sport - really? Love to hear that focus group...

That seems like a lot of weight, especially if you are talking 30-50 lb mountain/e-bikes, using the newer heavy duty racks they are selling, and planning on taking it offroad to a trail head.

https://cocomats.com/checker-mats/ or https://cocomats.com/coco-mats/ Not houndstooth, but a Black and White example may work...

Very nice - maybe add some black and white Coco Mats to complete the vintage Porsche theme.

My solution: Rear seat delete + Wicked Relics Packhorse slide out tray (with pre-drilled holes for the plate) + Wicked Relics Anti Skid Cargo Liners (custom cut into 3 pieces, so I have a 3rd piece to put over the plate if needed). I use the XL Toolbox with the Crate on top; the slide out tray...

Agree that if you drive a 2-door you will be a lot more comfortable in a 2-door if there are lots of trees/obstacles next to the trail like in LV, so ask in advance (or just pee on the door). In LV, there were only 2 out of 14.

Doesn't look there is any shade there (went to LV in November and it has lots, but haven't been to Moab since the 70s or so).

As a 2-door owner with them removed entirely for a slide out tray (so this doesn't have any relevance), that seems like a really bad idea and could potentially (worse case) open you up to litigation in case of an accident where the seats fail and there are long-term injuries. I'm extremely risk...

Another way to look at it is a safety expense of ~$1,000 plus service. Some people prefer to have tools to get them out of trouble (winch/recovery boards/straps etc.) and some people would just like to call AAA. Yeah, not as cool as telling your buddies you got into and then out of trouble by...

Need? No Want? Yes

1/4 thickness per their website. Not sure on sound properties, but the density would likely add something and the weight likely mitigates some of the tray movement when not transporting anything (sort of like how a loaded pickup rides better than an empty one). No drilling - in addition to the...

Just got my Anti-Skid Cargo Liners installed. Had them cut in 3 pieces to accommodate my Packout.