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  1. Flat Tow 2.7l Electric Brake/BMS time out. NTHSA claim

    So more info. I talked to Grant via phone, he is pretty sure that this will down the ABS system which the EBB is part off. Fuse 28 and 29 are ABS. I have also talked to Demco, if in fact that is the case we are to block off the vacuum and exhaust port on the AF1 thus getting full air...
  2. Flat Tow 2.7l Electric Brake/BMS time out. NTHSA claim

    Ford, one more item. It would appear that this short solution will cause the EBB to shut down with the removal of the fuse 28 and 29, thus removing the variability of the current issue. This really does not solve the issue in that the brakes remain ineffective with out boost. In you long...
  3. Flat Tow 2.7l Electric Brake/BMS time out. NTHSA claim

    Now looking for a 60 amp bypass switch to prevent removing fuse box cover all the time.
  4. Flat Tow 2.7l Electric Brake/BMS time out. NTHSA claim

    Ford! Thank you for watching this thread and addressing the issue, both in the short term and long term, very much looking forward to 9/2022. Question: Does removing the two fuses shut down the EBB or does it remain active and it shuts down the timing mechanism in the ABS? Charge line...
  5. Flat Tow 2.7l Electric Brake/BMS time out. NTHSA claim

    I have every thing crossed and some that I did not know could cross 🤞🤭
  6. Flat Tow 2.7l Electric Brake/BMS time out. NTHSA claim

    Suggest google F150 flat tow failure. I recall that it was suspected a few times that low battery caused it to remove itself from N. Hard to know if it was pilot error or actual low voltage.
  7. Flat Tow 2.7l Electric Brake/BMS time out. NTHSA claim

    Agreed, those are also very serious issues. The ratio of pull to push on the tow bar certainly leans toward more pull than push. Keep in mind the app requires cell service so I would also keep the fob handy.
  8. Flat Tow 2.7l Electric Brake/BMS time out. NTHSA claim

    I am not sure how long mine goes each time. What I do it cycle the door locks before big down grade and before entering into serious traffic. I find that my engine braking does about 90 percent of the work. The engine brake does not activate the AF1 as there is not change in air pressure.
  9. Flat Tow 2.7l Electric Brake/BMS time out. NTHSA claim

    Interiorguy! If true and Ford is really beginning to first admit there is a problem and also address it you have made my day.
  10. Flat Tow 2.7l Electric Brake/BMS time out. NTHSA claim

    Thank you! Although interesting the NSA solution does not solve the core issue. Only Ford and solve that.
  11. Flat Tow 2.7l Electric Brake/BMS time out. NTHSA claim

    Understood, I guess what I am questioning is how do you know the system can provide enough pressure to be effective. I think it would have to be at least 100 lbs of pull. It would be interesting to find out what the max amount of pull it can provide.
  12. Flat Tow 2.7l Electric Brake/BMS time out. NTHSA claim

    Sorry to be dense but I don’t understand how that system is going to not be affected by boost or no boost. It is simply pulling on the brake pedal just as the AF1 does. It’s the trigger that is different. Yes Theoretically it would get more pressure due to the harder push of the Bronco when...
  13. Flat Tow 2.7l Electric Brake/BMS time out. NTHSA claim

    Yes, that is the proper link. To see all the filed issues with Bronco. Search for 2021 Ford Bronco and there is a tab to view all complaints. Ours show up as "service brakes". You can click on each complaint and read the report
  14. Flat Tow 2.7l Electric Brake/BMS time out. NTHSA claim

    Just as a reminder to all affected, please complete a NTHSA complaint. I only see Grants and Mine. They have not started an investigation yet
  15. Flat Tow 2.7l Electric Brake/BMS time out. NTHSA claim

    Congrats, all bitching aside on this issue, I think you will really love it.
  16. Flat Tow 2.7l Electric Brake/BMS time out. NTHSA claim

    Agreed, Grant has fully tested the battery drain issue I do not think that is the trigger.
  17. Flat Tow 2.7l Electric Brake/BMS time out. NTHSA claim

    Grant, in the same spot at you, between Ford and Dealer. Mini4mw: on the above, when properly put in tow mode the ignition is neither on nor in accessory mode so not sure it applies. That being said, maybe tow mode keeps it active in some way thus it may be related in some way.
  18. Flat Tow 2.7l Electric Brake/BMS time out. NTHSA claim

    Interior guy, unfortunately not surprised. This is a Ford issue not Demco, not charge line. Ford needs to get on this ASAP
  19. Flat Tow 2.7l Electric Brake/BMS time out. NTHSA claim

    According to a tech, that spent 3 hours digging around in forscan. Looking for a toggle or setting to change. There was nothing he could find to do that he thought would fix the issue..


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