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Oh for sure - you and I will be satisfied, because we know what to expect. When my mother gets into my 4Runner she immediately comments on the jerky ride (no solid front axle btw). I think the 4Runner is fine in comparison to my old 99' Wrangler.

An earlier thread questioning why anyone would want the 2021MY got me thinking... As most with professional experience in the auto industry know, first model year vehicles statistically do have more issues than their second third and fourth year counterparts. This comes from a number of...

Hey man - I’m also actively trying to get a day 1 reservation drop ;)

Lol, while you are not incorrect that the 911 is quite loud, it’s a different loud - ya know? Lots of folks like hearing the exhaust note of a sports car, the ear shattering noise of a rock concert, surround sound blasting their favorite movie - however, not as many folks love the sound of a 747...

Eh, I’m young and can finally afford to be “first” at something.

My good friend is DEAD SET on getting a $50k bronco. He has never been off road and never road in a newhighway speeds. This guy loves luxury, luxury furniture, lux speakers, lux food...etc I have a real feeling that he is going to be shocked at the rough ride (even without a SFA it’s no sedan)...

Any legit off roader will have soft suspension - therefor low payloads and towing capacity. Trucks with high payloads and towing capacity use leaf springs for rear suspension which is what allows for high weight capacity. It will likely match the wrangler - as it does everywhere else (minus the...

For those of us actively hunting these things down.. this doesn’t appear to be Detroit. Maybe more west..AA area?

Nah, they look ASS

Yes but most of them are boomers

Turns out making cars is hard.

I think Manitoba may be your issue. In the states (especially MI, OH, IL) we have a million of them

also there are rangers at every dealer (essentially) that you can go sit in today

Ford is saying "summer" for Bronco. Summer goes from June 20 to September 22. Halloween bronco

As a former ford buyer I can tell you that Ford is constantly putting pressure on suppliers in this regard - the trouble is that some of these boys are literally bigger than Ford and thus its a hard measure to push. See bosch

Your first model year vehicle will always have a slew of problems. We are boned either way tbh. Calculated risk buying the first run,.

I am seeing lots of vehicles here that do not really seem comparable. F-250? Massive. If you enjoy vehicles that big - you shouldn't really even consider a Bronco. Cyber Truck? an untold number of years away, much more money, electric - aka would have to get a home charger installed..etc If...

definitely - the base exists just so they can say it starts below $30k (and for the true off roaders who just plan on beating this thing and modding it to high hell)

The Wrangler (or its earlier versions by different naming conventions) has never went away to my knowledge.. so if ford can get a reasonable footing in the next 5 years, it should be here for a longggg time

No way to really tell - As a former launch engineer I would throw a guess in there but COVID really makes it absolutely impossible to tell. My assumption is absolute WORST CASE, continued apocalypse scenario would be 40,000 min in 2021 Again that is pure guess work because COVID has changed...