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I would take a crappy photo over no photo.

Hopefully the first unless you’re buying a sport.

Kind of the same ordered when I got home from work around 1:30 AM on the 14th, email confirmation at 1:52 reservation says 15th.

Probabaly never happen. 3.5L from the Raptor maybe and that would be plenty enough at least for this round.

Just to be clear I never said it was the limiting factor, just possibly one small piece in a very complex puzzle.

I don’t know maybe cause of the bed length. Maybe because it actually classed as a truck and not an SUV but if I was forced to bet it would be that the wheel base is about 20 inches longer. Like I said I don’t really know what exactly goes into but go try and rent a trailer from Uhaul with...

I think they count a full tank of gas now. But I don’t think they count the spare or rear bumper, I don’t know for sure and I think it varies from model to model and make to make. Some examples I can give are my daughters focus is like 500lbs and has 5 seats. Wife’s explorer is like 1200...

Yes there are but saying it can only do 6k when it can really do more only protects Ford more. I agree as I think the towing could be more too but I don’t know I think it all boils down to Ford staying below 6k to compete directly with Jeep otherwise they could say we do AB and C better and Jeep...

Probably don’t help you now but I wouldn’t be surprised if we see a FSB or Bronco HD in a couple of years.

Thanks for looking it up I’ll take your word for it. There’s probably all the answers or directions in the CFR as far as the requirements and testing specs. But I would rather drink nothing but black coffee and eat nothing but creamed corn and ghost peppers for a week than read another CFR.

Look at it this way GVWR-Curb weight = payload. I think the GVWR is artificially set by Ford so it stays in the same class as wrangler. They simply tested it to those specs and not its true capabilities. For the Bronco GVWR is 6k wheel base or engine doesn’t change it. Look up the GVWR for a...

I 100% agree it’s the hitch. But I think there is a reason they stopped at class 2 instead of putting a class 3. Maybe time maybe money, why would they not want to say hey we can also tow more than a Jeep. Maybe they are happy with being just as good as Jeep when it comes to towing. I would...

I think he meant 2021

Pretty safe bet that sometime in the future there will be changes that may or may not be announced. I have no sort of inside info or a friend of a uncle and could have made that prediction.

I don’t think you can do it legally, and I don’t know of any way to get a vehicle recertification for a higher limit. I’m with you that the power train can handle it. I would be willing to bet the Bronco as a whole can handle 5k especially with a W/D hitch but that might not be a class II...

I think you said it better faster!

Um.. those are max available. I don’t think you get what I’m saying. Payload= GVWR- curb. So if you put a engine that weighs 200lbs more and nothing else changes like wheel base or suspension you just lost 200lbs of payload. If ford is capping the Bronco at a 6k to stay in class with the...

I think you get that payload with a base 2.3 that you can’t get the tow package with. I think when you move up to the 2.7 with a couple extra doors and start optioning out you get a lot closer to the estimated curb weight of 5320. If 6k is the magic number and you add the 350ish for the...

Cup holders 2 per passenger, not an issue.

Great pics, you checked for keys right?