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  1. Defender 90 vs Bronco 2 door

    No top and a washout interior. Loved that on my ā€˜97 D90. The new Defender is just like every other model in their lineup now. Being able to wash out the inside from the beach, mountain, or desert is really great. Who wants to put a wet dog covered in sand into an enclosed vehicle with a $300...
  2. Black Diamond with Steel Wheels, Who ordered/Is going to order

    Love the Steelers, though wish the gloss was lower. I’m getting A51 to go with them. If I get pushed to ā€˜22, I might go Mansquach, so there goes the steelies. So it’s really my optimism that Ford will build Broncs this year and a lot of first day orders will cancel!
  3. Dealer used my reservation and ordered a Bronco without my permission, on hold with Ford customer care now! ?

    This is really a concern. I’m surprised Ford would let a dealer convert an order without a customer signature or other authorization. That seems like a lack of business controls that could bite a dealer in many ways. On the other hand, the actual transactions are between Ford and the dealer...
  4. Those still waiting to hear from their dealer since they reserved (not A,D or Z plan)

    Loaded. In all seriousness, I have reached out, but despite forum posts that my dealer will honor x-plan and have no ADM, last week the salesman said price ā€œwill be what the market will bearā€. Since I’m the market, I won’t bear much. I didn’t transfer to some of the active forum dealers as I...
  5. ?Cactus Gray Black Diamond with steel wheels (2-Door)

    Thanks for the pics. I like the steelies as they remind me of the Defender and just look functional. My old Defender had alloys, but I always worried about them on the trail. I’m ordering a 2dr BD in A51 and maybe slap some 33’s on. It will mostly go to the beach with the top off and...
  6. Transferring reservation to different dealer

    As I posted on another thread, my dealer won’t divulge their allocation, but implied I’d be ok. But they also said pricing will be ā€œwhat the market will bearā€. So not a good start. My only leverage is shifting my reservation elsewhere. However, just calling Ford to move it might not help...
  7. Bronco team rep's email to dealer GM -- discussing reservations, order conversion, allocations

    My dealer told me their allocation and my rank was ā€œproprietaryā€. Also that there were no promotions or incentives for purchase or financing on Bronco, and that pricing would be ā€œwhat the market will bearā€. On the other hand, he said he thought ā€œI’d be fine on my delivery rankā€. It...
  8. Compared to a Defender - some general thoughts and concerns.

    My only Land Rover was a 1997 Defender. Never had a single problem the five years I owned it. Bought it new for $35k and sold it for $37k, thinking I’d done good. If I wanted to buy it back today, it would probably be north of $137K! So much for depreciation! I loved that vehicle. Very...
  9. BD with MGV and carpet behind rear seats??

    It looks like the 21MY will have the carpet on the seats based on the BroncoNation interview. ā€œMaybeā€ future years will have a different solution. This really bums me out. I loved my ā€˜97 Defender 90 for the pure rubber and vinyl interior. Easy to clean from beach to mountain. Carpet screws...
  10. Defender 90 vs Bronco 2 door

    I used to have a 1997 Defender 90. Wish I hadn’t sold it, as prices are through the roof. Very fun and functional vehicle. I’ve reserved a Black Diamond stock, as it’s the closest thing I’ve seen to that D90. The new version of the D90 is nice, but not nearly as utilitarian. The size and...
  11. What's with the manual trans hype?

    I’m a manual bigot, especially for performance cars. My 911 is a 2012 and the last one I’ll ever have because the new ones are too electronic & digitized. The manuals are just automatics with shifter leveSr! I got an automatic loaner once from the dealer and the thing was in fifth gear at 1500...
  12. Area 51 Bronco First Real Life Looks [on Bronco Sport] - New Pics

    Thanks for the pics. I still like Area 51, but I’m getting my wife a Mach e in Infinite Blue. I’m hoping they are different enough or might have to opt for another color. I thought it would be lighter and more teal.
  13. 2 Door Soft Top??

    I’m curious why it’s not an option. I live in SoCal, so have no need for the hard top and no where to store it. Even if I buy an aftermarket top, it’s just an extra expense and I’d have to unload the hard top somehow. Not sure there will be much of a market for it initially.


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