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Electric off-road sounds fantastic. A motor per wheel means no more differentials, no more lockers. 400 mile range on the Rivians seems like plenty for most trips too. Obviously it doesn't work for the overland guys, but for many other off-road purposes it seems pretty sweet.

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Got those on my Taco right now, they've been terrific here in the PNW.

I'm pretty sure those were leaked years ago. At least it feels like it.

Yeah, I suppose snow has a very different definition based on where you live. I'll be happy with either, though I'd prefer the front locker.

That front bumper looks like it accepts a winch.

Front torsen is great in many conditions, but not that great in snow. Hoping that front locker is an option too.

Trim with 34s confirmed? Hell yeah!

They weren't legit, they were of the new Defender.

You know how sometimes you think about what you're going to say, and then you decide "maybe I should just keep that opinion to myself"? No? I thought not.

If I can't fit 33s without cutting I'm probably not buying one. Still debating if I care about going to 35s, would be nice for snowwheeling in these parts...

Aka you need the ratio for it to make sense, exactly. A 255/85R16 is also a 33, for example.

That's not how tire sizing works lol.

You seem to be conflating different groups on this forum, and throwing them all in the same pot. The general sentiment I see and share is that an alternative to the Wrangler would be damn nice. Especially if that means better fuel economy and more storage in the 2dr compared to the Wrangler...

Yeah, they don't, but what's important is the image that they COULD. Plus we're all a bunch of enthusiasts here, so don't be surprised to hear enthusiast opinions.

Maybe mounts for rock sliders?

Wildpeaks are absolutely fantastic, and do well in the snow too (anything from icy roads to 3' of snow on trails).

2 Door I really want it in manual, but do a LOT of off-roading. Hmmmmm. Biggest engine white removable top some super obnoxious color All the off road goodies, Android Auto, as few of the other bells and whistles (ACC, parking sensors, etc.) as possible

Well we need to pass the time somehow.

Weight to tire footprint ratio, as well as the long wheel base limiting mobility. When the snow is deep, you need to air way down and float on top, so you want light vehicles with big tires and a short wheel base. I suppose I should qualify that I'm talking about off-roading in 3+ feet of snow...