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Seems Raptor is only for the pickup version. F-150 in US etc. and Ranger in markets where the F-150 isn't sold. I do wonder what they'll call the top trim Bronco, and what'll come with it. Not sure I want a Torsen diff over a front locker.

That's why I'm asking for recommendations, since you apparently know your way around. Looking at the price of new SxS, I can't afford one.

Where can I get a SxS for 15k that'll rock crawl like a built Jeep? Sounds sick.

Skeets, those SxS work because they're super narrow in the front with very long arms. Can't do that with an SUV.

Raptor is a desert vehicle. They suck in snow. They especially suck in snow on right trails. Not all offroading is the same.

Plus RTT is a lot more convenient than a ground tent when there's 2' of snow on the ground.

Don't wanna sleep on the ground with mountain lions, coyotes, and bears around. Even if most of them would never get close to you, still makes you sleep better...

Nah. 98% of Wranglers never see anything off-road beyond a dirt road to a trail head. What's important is the image of an off-road worthy vehicle, not the vehicle itself.

It's the internet. The people who end up on these forums usually aren't exactly normal ;).

You got it!

I'll take that bet!

Looks like one of the chopped Ranger test mules. IFS and leafs in the back. Not sure we can glean anything new from this?