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My sincerest apologies. Pointing out another auto manufacturer’s stock price is irrelevant. Again, I’m very sorry my POST hurt your feelings. I don’t know if I’ll be able to get over the grief I’ve caused you.

Have you seen Tesla's? Ford's increase is peanuts...or non existent, comparatively.

Not judging your spending or saving habits. It just made me smile you went through the mental gymnastics on a Versa, that’s all ?

I don’t do anything like that, and I’m an accounting controller for a large company. In fact, your spreadsheet doesn’t make much sense to me. In addition, it’s not necessary if you’re living well within your means, as you say. That’s the whole essence of living well within your means, so you’re...

Uh people don’t take responsibility anymore these days. Accidents happen. Glad you had the dash cam. What setup were you running?

Target market? Hate to break the news to you, but Ford’s target market is soccer moms. Way less than 5% of Bronco owners will have a roof top tent or put anything on the roof. Same percentage applies to Wranglers. I always get a chuckle when a tiny percentage start screaming about target market.

No mention of the other driver? Hopefully he/she/they are okay as well.

To be fair, I believe the engine is actually pretty reliable. It's won some top 10 engine awards. The problem is it feels a little (or a lot depending who you are) under powered, that's all. Don't let your bias run too strong.

Yes on MT, no on 35's. However, it's much easier to change tires than transmissions last time I checked.

I’d sure hope so given the Raptor isn’t designed to rock crawl...

And people were bashing FCA for showing big discounts and then adding on fees to get close to MSRP. This is complete BS from many Ford dealers. I’ll sit on the sidelines until they pull their head out of their a$$.

Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but I could’ve swore Ford is not allowing ADM’s by reducing allocations to dealerships who charge them. Is that not the case? I know Ford received tons of heat on the massive ADMs dealers were charging for Shelbys the past few years.

IMO n/a engines are just smoother and more reliable. I’m not a big fan of stressing these small engines with so much boost. I don’t think they can handle it long term. Why do you think Toyotas retain their values so well. And this is coming from a dumb millennial.

Haha yes. Non FCA and Nissan dealers don’t play the same games. Funniest thing I’ve heard all day. Thanks for the laugh! Literally every dealership does the exact same thing. Every.single.dealership Also, thanks for the buying advice. I’ve successfully purchased many new vehicles well under...

Agreed. So what are people complaining about with respect to Jeep dealerships? Please enlighten me how what Jeep dealerships do is different from every other dealership.

Wait, let me understand this correctly. We’re talking about Jeep dealers playing games and Ford dealers on the straight and narrow? This is completely laughable. You all can’t be serious. It is very common for Ford dealers to have $10k + ADM’s on Shelbys. So a Jeep dealer offers a discount and...