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  1. Drag Race by TFL: Bronco First Edition 2.7L vs. Jeep Wrangler 4XE vs. Toyota FJ

    I am willing to bet it is more peppy and fun than my Colorado with the 2.8L diesel that has less torque and damn near half the horsepower than the 2.7t and the ancient GM 6 speed auto.
  2. Drag Race by TFL: Bronco First Edition 2.7L vs. Jeep Wrangler 4XE vs. Toyota FJ

    He can hit 60 in 2nd gear with your claimed setup. A sasquatch will be at the top of 3rd. The torque limiting is probably more of a factor with 4.70 diffs. In 1st gear with 415lb/ft you are talking about over 9k ft/lbs of torque going through the cv's and rear axle. In your buddies f150 its...
  3. Drag Race by TFL: Bronco First Edition 2.7L vs. Jeep Wrangler 4XE vs. Toyota FJ

    They are still taller with a majority of the weight farther from the center of the wheel which means its more difficult to accelerate even if it were the same weight. Plus rolling resistance will be higher with the sasquatch tires due to width as well, they are super wide. The 4.70 gears help...
  4. Drag Race by TFL: Bronco First Edition 2.7L vs. Jeep Wrangler 4XE vs. Toyota FJ

    Does that f150 have 4.70 diff ratios? How about 35in tall tires on 17in wheels? The answer is no, so it's not evenly remotely similar.
  5. Drag Race by TFL: Bronco First Edition 2.7L vs. Jeep Wrangler 4XE vs. Toyota FJ

    Evidence of poor transmission tuning? It's a 10spd with super low gearing...
  6. Drag Race by TFL: Bronco First Edition 2.7L vs. Jeep Wrangler 4XE vs. Toyota FJ

    It's also PHYSICS. Physics don't care how much you paid.
  7. Drag Race by TFL: Bronco First Edition 2.7L vs. Jeep Wrangler 4XE vs. Toyota FJ

    Lower gearing CAN help, but you also have to take into account how many times the 10spd will need to shift, the higher propshaft speeds which increase parasitic loss and the rotational mass of the massive tires. My point is there is ALOT working against the Bronco in this test and none of it is...
  8. Drag Race by TFL: Bronco First Edition 2.7L vs. Jeep Wrangler 4XE vs. Toyota FJ

    Probably not. It's not like the Wrangler's use a superior transmission with massive amounts of overhead capability. An 850RE is only rated for 500nm, which is not much more than the 2.0t has. People are looking way more into this because they don't understand what it means and everyone is...
  9. Drag Race by TFL: Bronco First Edition 2.7L vs. Jeep Wrangler 4XE vs. Toyota FJ

    More than a couple cars are faster skipping 1st gear because its usually so low and it takes time to make that shift. With a torque converter you can just let the torque converter figure it out and skip the shift. People are over reacting. The sasquatch's have 4.70 diffs, with monster heavy...
  10. Thanks All! Taking delivery of our Bronco today - First Edition 4-Door MIC Top in Cyber Orange

    I mean.. talking about the competition and the latest responses from the competition to the vehicle you are driving during a media event is not something I would say is out of place.
  11. Thanks All! Taking delivery of our Bronco today - First Edition 4-Door MIC Top in Cyber Orange

    Awesome. Eagerly waiting for your guys content with it.
  12. Rethinking SaS

    It depends on your use case, how having the Sasquatch option affects resale and what you want. For me, I ordered a 2dr Badlands with 2.7t and felt I probably gave up fuel economy and the consensus is with the badlands you lose suspension travel and some small amount of articulation with the...
  13. Z-plan questions

    Yeah, I mean that would be an incredibly shitty thing for them to do. I wont even pretend to know what kind of recourse you would have in that situation.
  14. Z-plan questions

    My Dealer order preview sheet shows MSRP as well as A/Z plan pricing as well as D and X plan actually. They are correct though, financing and plan usage will not be relevant until you actually buy the car. Nothing is done "early" afaik except the order # and associated car is reserved for you.
  15. Gear indicator on dash?

    People here are confusing the towing (and I guess mountain driving) way of doing a "manual" mode and a real "manual" shifting mode. It sounds like the f150's (and basically all chevrolet vehicles) have the gear limiting function if you tap the + or - button when in drive, and then it shows you...
  16. Window Top?

    Why would that be any different than any moon/sun roof or t-tops or targa top on any other car?
  17. Window Top?

    I'm getting a 2dr and while I dont really want a full soft top, I wouldn't mind having just the front section so I can take it off easy and its lighter. Of course I'd rather have a glass/plastic window top piece.
  18. Window Top?

    I see some available for the wrangler and I know historically T-top vehicles and many targa top vehicles have had "window" top panels... So has anyone seen anyone working on a window front top section for the bronco? I was thinking about getting the twill front section as an accessory for...
  19. Fuel economy at 70-80 mph?

    I'm also watching fuel economy reports like a hawk. I get it, it's not aerodynamic and it's a box on wheels and gear ratios but I'm really hoping my 2.7 badlands without sasquatch will be able to be in the low 20s at 65 or so in Michigan's up. I'm coming from a diesel (2.8L 4cyl) colorado zr2...


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