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There are enough impatient fools out there. But, there's also trading between dealers, so it makes it look like there's movement and inflation of pricing.

Ah! You are right. Thank you. I stand corrected. Greater Fool Theory, indeed.

Indeed. That's right. So, yeah, I suppose they can't even order from Ford at MSRP... Since they order at or below "dealer invoice." :)

Hahaha. So, if a franchise/licensed dealer cannot order from Ford at MSRP, who can? Just because ordering banks are temporarily closed doesn't mean a dealer cannot order from Ford at MSRP. Actually, now that I think about it, they aren't wrong. Dealers cannot order from Ford at MSRP. Dealers...

So dealerships selling to dealerships at a premium, therefore the first dealership is flipping for a profit (greater than their dealer margin) to another dealer, and then the second dealer is marking it up further? Cool. So a third dealer can come and convince the second dealer to flip it to...

Major bummer. This is what I was waiting for, and is why I deferred my original reservation... Not sure if I will cancel or not at this point.

Yup, got one of these rejection emails. GreenLantern, Thank you for your interest in our boldest off-road SUV yet, the Ford Bronco® RaptorTM. Because of high demand, we are not able to offer you the opportunity to order a 2022 Model Year Bronco Raptor at this time. In the meantime, we...

Happy to convert by regular Raptor reservation into this. If it's not a reservation system, I won't be getting a Bronco Raptor (I'm not going to play the dumb games you have to play to get an F-150 Raptor, unfortunately). It's sad how things are with Raptors these days.

I hate how "Added Markups" are so normal now. I remember when they were shunned and dealers who did it had to be sneaky about it. Sorry to hear you're having a miserable experience. Doesn't surprise me, quite frankly. This is why I pushed out my reservation.

What a joke.

A fool and their money are often parted.

Sadly, humanity has proven that this will never happen.

Everyone keeps justifying this nonsense by saying "laws of supply & demand." This isn't a liquid market like the stock market. It really is the fault of idiots with too much money and no idea what to do with it all. If everyone held the line at MSRP, dealers would only be able to sell at...

The whole thing is a joke. I hate how everyone has normalized "above MSRP" and "ADMs" now.

That's because the IRS doesn't really consider crypto to be a currency, it's an asset class.

I didn't say it's not.

I rest my case. :)

I'm wondering when certain "celebs" will get indicted for pumping up DOGE. This isn't a business or a company where someone can tweet and say "Oh, we're about to have a blowout quarter!" and then they actually have an amazing quarter. This is a cryptocurrency that doesn't generate any value...

This ^^^

Hold the line. Hold the line! Much respect for dealers who hold the line at MSRP. And in return, I don't ask them for discounts, either. (If they offer me one, I won't turn it down, obviously.)