$600 is goofy expensive for a ClassII and 4/7 pin. I'm still hoping for a "real" tow package that Ford hasn't disclosed yet, some of it included in the $600 price they floated in the survey. Things I would expect for $600 like upgraded alternator, upgraded cooling.
There's a lack of basic data...
Good points. I just keep thinking with the 4-dr and the 2.7l Ford should be able to get the tow capacity to 5000lbs. You slap a 400tq engine in an SUV you should plan on it being able to tow 5000lbs. Aftermarket can achieve that with a ClassIII hitch and HD coils easily. We'll see what happens.
Many people don't know jackshit about versatile 4WD SUV's with a low-range 4WD transfer case that can tow, and at a reasonable buyin cost. It's a small niche.
Reasonable buyin cost is a big deal. Land Cruiser and Land Rover is ridiculous cost. 4Runner is reasonable, Ford should shoot to not...
Towing 90% of the time at 5400ft minimum altitude the turbo 2.7 would be great to have in an SUV. There's no other engine in an SUV that can provide that towing power at a reasonable buyin cost and also deliver good fuel mileage. Ford has to step up to the plate and match the tow capacity to...
4-dr and 5000lbs for me. I didn't do multiple votes since I'm only interested in a 4-dr for the interior size and maximum versatility, decent sized fuel tank.
4-dr with 5000lbs+ tow capacity would be a kickass versatile SUV, would check off every possible category in the SUV world at a...
The potential is easily there, IMO. The tow hooks on each frame rail are removed, the ClassIII or ClassIV mounts there. You could even reinstall the tow hooks with the stouter hitch underneath. An outfit like Curt will have to design one that fits the curves of the Bronco crossmember where the...
Don't know how to get Ford's attention, but that poll (open for only seven days) showed only 43% of respondents had no concerns at all. Ford should absolutely have an intern or two or three reviewing the concerns on this board.
Maybe they have plans to do some J2807 testing, but they're still...
WDH's with sway control do hang lower than a simple ball setup, some more than others. Hauling my various 19-20' offroadable hardside travel trailers at first I used a WDH with sway control, then when I left pavement I would swap in a plain rise hitch. I found pretty quick going onto somewhat...
I don't think airbags can be mounted. The coilover rear setup prevents insertion in the coils, the shock fills that space. Bags could maybe be mounted on the axle tubes though . . . . . .
Simply adding a WDH-capable hitch cures a lot of travel trailer towing ills. WDH with sway control takes a...
Are you still thinking about the Gladiator? I've read that long Gladiator wheelbase is a problem offroading, very poor breakover angle.
I keep thinking the Bronco will be fine towing 5000lbs, just have to aftermarket upgrade the hitch and rear coils if Ford won't do so. No doubt at all...
I think it's possible Ford will up the 4-dr tow rating. It's not all that difficult to meet J2807 standards up to 5000lbs with the chassis and drivetrain they have. By doing so they emphasize it is a Wrangler-killer. Kind of a shame to waste the HP/TQ from the Ecoboosts with a paltry 3500lb tow...
No, 3500lbs max with a ClassII hitch is NOT good for hauling a small camper. My 19' is 3000lbs dry, that's a small trailer. This 2021 Bronco should easily haul that loaded up with cargo for offgrid up to 4000lbs. With the frame and engine it has it should be able to tow 7000lbs with a real tow...
True all that. Something that could give hope to tow people is Ford is only rolling out the prototypes right now and their market surveys showed towing was a low priority, as the poll indicates.
J2807 tow standards could and should be in their plans. The basic platform can easily handle 5000lbs...
Maybe someone like Hellwig will develop a rear swaybar if Ford won't. I have no doubt HD rear coils will be on the market fast. Seems to me there should be plenty of interest for upgrades that allow towing a 3500lb dry travel trailer. Especially since the Bronco has at minimum the 2.3l turbo and...
Yes, moreso with a high-profile travel trailer. For example let's look at my 19' Micro Minnie 1706fb. High-profile, lifted, susceptible to crosswinds. Let's say a strong, gusty crosswind hits me while I'm doing 65mph, the trailer pivots at the ball hitch.
Trailer twitches right and left, pivots...
Mine is a 3000lb dry 19' Micro Minnie 1706fb. Yes, it's a basecamp trailer. Yank it as far as I can into the boonies with the V8 4runner 4WD (23g fuel tank, 7100lb tow capacity, factory ClassIV hitch), unhook and go wheeling.
No way I would haul it with the ClassII hitch Ford has now. The...
Ranger aftermarket Curt ClassIII bolts directly to the frame rails, is WDH capable. https://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Hitch/Curt/C13417.html?feed=npn&gclid=CjwKCAjw0_T4BRBlEiwAwoEiAfNYb4YfOn0IrefpNsgictStXk1-u4vokTFJ92Z45B1Sy05EMcZtCBoCcAAQAvD_BwE
You guys are underthinking this. Either factory...
Nice offroad setup! I thought you were hauling a 3000lb+ travel trailer. Your short narrow low-profile trailer is easy to tow. With a 3000lb high-profile travel trailer the Bronco 2.7l turbo will tow with better mpg at high altitude in the Mountain West states compared to a Pentastar V6. Sure...
Wise to be cautious, but look at this pic of the Bronco rear -
You see the wimpy ClassII hitch attached to the crossmember, that is the reason for the current 3500lb rating.
You also see the tow hooks attached to the frame with two stout bolts. A ClassIII or ClassIV will bolt onto the frame...
Good point. It's all about geometry. Lifting is a good thing but if you don't have good approach/departure/breakover to begin with you'll spend a lot of money trying to compensate.