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no, i just know how Fords rates can be, no matter the current "rate of money flow." was their rate they showed you what is was because of the price of the car? Some dealers do deal that are a loss on the front with the caveat that they are making money on the back. then you just refinance after...

6% on a 72mon loan is not bad lol. better than Fords rates if standard financing

what was it that made it a bad deal?

Because Ford has been adjusting their profit margin with dealers. Does 2k below invoice keep a dealer profitable? What if Ford puts put some rule on pricing due to all the reservation changes? I mean there was already the removal of x plan.

May not be on your bingo card, but in some markets, thats a harsh reality. There's markets out there that advertise deals that are ridiculously good and in favor of the buyer if the buyer is willing to play the game (finance for a few payments). Theres dealers out there more than willing to work...

Your argument is as if dealerships wouldn't exist. They would still exist, just not privately owned. Instead they would be owned by manufacturers. So all liability ect, would be the cost on the manufacturer. Locations will have to exist. Even carvana understands that and has actual locations...

Except that invoiced amount becomes much higher due to required overhead, staffing, ect. If this was a phone with only a few options, sure. With vehicles, that's not the case. There is no situation where getting rid of dealers suddenly drops pricing for consumers. Manufactures will 1000% incure...

I forsee the opposite. Its rare in normal vehicles that people special order anymore unless its something like this with the Bronco.

correct, but outside of this bronco, thats not a realistic conversation as 99.9999999% (i could keep going lol) are vehicles that are already on lots. not custom orders. changing the whole model because of the bronco is a joke.

I get your idea on ordered vehicles, but the model of only ordered vehicles will never work. there has to be inventory out and available. we live in a society of instant gratification.

they also dont handle the overhead of storage of the vehicles, staff for people to test drive, sell, paperwork, showcase, insure, title, ect. getting rid of the dealer doesnt magically make a major aspect of the whole thing go away. it simply passes it on to the manufacturer. so if that...

by overhead, you mean overhead that the manufacturer would then have to cover? gotta store those vehicles somewhere right? gotta have locations that people can go out and test drive and pick out a car. people live in a society where they seek instant gratification. there would still have to be...

highly doubtful. MSRP is the Manufacturers Suggested Retail Price. i.e. what the manufacturer suggests the retail price should be. not sure why you think a manufacturer, without a dealer to appease, would settle with the minimum profit margin they are willing to settle with. that of course being...

yes you think getting rid of dealers would lower the cost?

i mean if someone says theres going to be a class action suit if they dont get the deal they were told they could get when official pricing hadnt even been released at that time.... you kind of just have to laugh.

Why would they face a class action and how? What leg would that lawsuit have to stand on? show me the contract you have signed with them on that deal.

ah yes, eliminate the dealers..... so everyone just pays MSRP. You think the manufacturer would discount anything beyond the rebates at that point? You think getting rid of dealerships would make anything cheaper or create a better deal?

cant say im shocked

I can agree with you, provided the "ok to rip-off his customer base" isnt based on the premise of them selling at MSRP. Selling vehicles at MSRP isnt ripping anyone off as MSRP stands for Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price, i.e. the price Ford thinks dealers should be selling them for. any...

I feel really bad for some of the markets you guys are in and hearing some of your guys ways to work a dealer to get a fair deal. some of these methods dont get a better deal here, but just prolong the process and make it more frustrating for both sides. thats unfortunate. and really, anything...