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All show / No go....I'll pass.

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Sounds about right! Mine was a poorly engineered heaping pile of $hit. They brag about SFA but after all these years can't get the front end geometry right. Steering dampener replaced twice. Once with an after market part for which I was reimbursed by jeep. Missing rusty welds / buggy...

Beginning to think no one in here had basic physics in high school. In addition to items mentioned above there are MANY other factors to consider like center of gravity for example. The list is endless. Plus tow rating has much more to do with stopping safely than pulling! Hell, technically a...

Between 5 and 6....basically rocks and hills where I don't THINK my bash plates will hit. But if they do I'll grin and bear it 🍺

$1500 for a tent? That wipes out my whole beer budget for the year 🍻

"Cougar claw"? Negative ghost rider!!!!! I bet ur not much fun at parties :p

I still vote "The Shocker"

Speed, handling & my Excellent BMW dealer (Rick Hendrick). He doesn't own a Ford store 😖. Most Ford dealers around here are clowns.

Why "Killed By Death" of course....dah!!!!!!!!!

Plus, jeep was pretty stingy with the velcro. I was surprised how little was applied. More jeep engineering prowess I guess :ROFLMAO:

I hope so cause jeeps velcro attachment was worthless!!!!!

For what it is worth I had sound deadening liners in my JL Wrangler. They were attached with a few strips of velcro. When it got hot the glue would melt and the liners would fall down. If Ford doesn't use velcro with a higher grade glue to keep them attached I'm afraid the same thing will...

#CalExit can't come soon enough!!!!!

Agree, make it the "Shocker" :devilish:

I hope so! They told me to expect a late summer of 22 delivery. Depending on how late it could be a MY23 depending on the switch over date. I think the are also giving me a worst case scenario not factoring in cancelled or moved reservations. In any case, it is fine with me because I don't need...

I have a late January 21 reservation at a high volume dealer. MY23 is a possibility according to my dealer...FYI

NC = No FRONT PLATE :). Feeling sorry for the rest of you commies :ROFLMAO:

Yes if local. Probably have plenty of Black Diamond owners interested if no wheel options become available. Back when I had my Wrangler plenty of take offs where out there and they sold easily.

Don't know, they won't tell me. So far down the list they are probably afraid I'll move my reservation. I won't trash them cause I don't really need it till 2023. Otherwise their communication has been awesome.