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EV ship sailed 2 years ago, I think Diesels need to make a comeback without all the emissions crap ruining them
 

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Transverse engine mounting was the worst thing that ever happened to the automobile. I've only owned one and it sucked, 2013 Explorer, never again.
As has been mentioned many times before, most of the people on these sites are people who are performance minded relatively speaking. Whether it's the performance of a sports car or an off-road capable vehicle.

FWD has benefits from a packaging standpoint and also better traction and handling in areas of the country that get snow without having to go with an AWD/4WD vehicle. Also, the understeering that is characteristic of a FWD vehicle kept most people from driving beyond their skill. They work well for people who are just looking for an appliance to get them back and forth to work every day, which sadly, is the majority of the drivers on the road today.

Now I will say, I got through my college years driving a RWD '78 2-door Chevy Impala with bald tires (because I was poor) through Chicago winters. I developed the skill on how to drive a RWD vehicle in foul weather that most people driving today never developed.

I remember the stories where people were wrapping Hellcats around trees within miles of leaving the dealership when they first came out. My theory on that was that people who grew up only driving low horsepower, understeering FWD vehicles got into these Hellcats and would stomp on the gas pedal without having a clue on how to handle that much power in a RWD car, especially when the rear end would start to get loose. Same goes for these videos you see of kids wrecking Mustangs as they leave Cars & Coffee. You can say that FWD and AWD dumbed down the driving skills of most of the population, but it satisfied how the majority of them used their vehicles.


Case in point, one of my sons got into a one car accident with a previous Mustang I owned. His everyday car was an AWD Taurus. One day he takes the Mustang and while pulling out of a gas station he stomped on it while making the turn and the car just snapped on him and he lost control and went into a ditch. Thankfully he wasn't hurt, but I can't say the same for the poor Mustang. Later I asked him why he didn't let off the gas when the car snapped and his response was that he panicked.

Many of us old guys have memories of taking our RWD cars in snow covered parking lots doing donuts. That taught us how to handle oversteer. In the case of my son, all of our "everyday cars" were either FWD or AWD cars. The Mustang never got driven in the winter, so my kids never got the chance to develop those skills.
 
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As has been mentioned many times before, most of the people on these sites are people who are performance minded relatively speaking. Whether it's the performance of a sports car or an off-road capable vehicle.

FWD has benefits from a packaging standpoint and also better traction and handling in areas of the country that get snow without having to go with an AWD/4WD vehicle. Also, the understeering that is characteristic of a FWD vehicle kept most people from driving beyond their skill. They work well for people who are just looking for an appliance to get them back and forth to work every day, which sadly, is the majority of the drivers on the road today.

Now I will say, I got through my college years driving a RWD '78 2-door Chevy Impala with bald tires (because I was poor) through Chicago winters. I developed the skill on how to drive a RWD vehicle in foul weather that most people driving today never developed.

I remember the stories where people were wrapping Hellcats around trees within miles of leaving the dealership when they first came out. My theory on that was that people who grew up only driving low horsepower, understeering FWD vehicles got into these Hellcats and would stomp on the gas pedal without having a clue on how to handle that much power in a RWD car, especially when the rear end would start to get loose. Same goes for these videos you see of kids wrecking Mustangs as they leave Cars & Coffee. You can say that FWD and AWD dumbed down the driving skills of most of the population, but it satisfied how the majority of them used their vehicles.


Case in point, one of my sons got into a one car accident with a previous Mustang I owned. His everyday car was an AWD Taurus. One day he takes the Mustang and while pulling out of a gas station he stomped on it while making the turn and the car just snapped on him and he lost control and went into a ditch. Thankfully he wasn't hurt, but I can't say the same for the poor Mustang. Later I asked him why he didn't let off the gas when the car snapped and his response was that he panicked.

Many of us old guys have memories of taking our RWD cars in snow covered parking lots doing donuts. That taught us how to handle oversteer. In the case of my son, all of our "everyday cars" were either FWD or AWD cars. The Mustang never got driven in the winter, so my kids never got the chance to develop those skills.
All true. As far as my transverse drivetrain Explorer, it drove well enough day to day, just never 'felt' right. Most annoying was driver position, (very inboard) and not responding the way I was used too (your comments). My grandkids get along great with the platform, in fact one is driving, and loving, that old Explorer. I now have a 2023 with a RWD/4WD layout and love it for a road car.
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