Bad news about MIC 2.0 quality after a few days

[mpeugeot]

I hope you are one of those people who get frustrated enough to move on and buy a different product. For you and the others on this thread who think some social media campaign is going to resolve what is not a problem is inconsiderate of us fellow Bronco customers who want their Bronco with a hard top.

No one on this thread has offered ANY proof that the deviations in appearance of the seams is truly a functional problem that will prevent the MIC top from meeting the requirements of its design goals. The issue is only cosmetic at this point. Prospective (2-door) Bronco owners such as me are willing to accept the REST of the vehicle with all the other potential flaws it may have and work any and all design and workmanship issues with their vehicles through the warranty process.

I don't think a few instances of MIC top seam pics showing rough edges on an incredibly small sample of delivered Broncos warrants a social media campaign to bring down Ford to its knees and force prospective owners to accept your solution of being delivered a Bronco 2-door with a soft top.

Until any of you post proof that the seam appearance inconsistencies ARE an actual quality problem that makes the MIC top not fit for use, why not just keep your mouths shut on something you actually don't know what you are talking about and let the rest of us holders get their trucks and deal with any potential quality issues directly with Ford through their dealership.

Did Dirty Mike hire you? Because if he hasn't, he should!

That's an excellent defense of this problem and really shows how Ford is the true victim of what is nothing but a smear campaign.

I doubt Ford is going to re-open Dirt Mountain for MIC tops, they would rather choke on a bag of dicks at this point.

Mind you, I suggested that Ford release the 2 doors months ago and was routinely flamed for it. So I agree with you in that re-opening the Dirt Mountain Storage Complex is not in anyone's interest.

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[Lazerus]

Here's what I find amusing. Go find a 3rd thru 5th gen Bronco and look at the clamshell top. As I remember the tops, they are thick, heavy chopped molded fiberglass and a PIA to remove and store. Back in the day He-men (i.e. stalky, non-hair bun wearing dudes) would just pull the top and leave it the shed or on the ground with a tarp over it. LOL.

Jump now to 2021 and we are supposed to expect some space-age, beyond carbon fiber lightweight material that is beautiful, impervious to the elements, and seals against hurricanes while being easy to remove and store. All at a starting price of $30K.

Got it. What a joke.

Paid under 35K and have a top that's impervious to the elements and removable by one person.

The Wrangler was the target for the Bronco, so yeah, they should be able to manufacture viable top in that price range.

these mic top photos always put this image in my mind...

 

[Garemlin]

Maybe it is but Jeep isn't having this problem with their hard top supplier (Quadratec?) are they? Maybe Ford should take a page outta their book.

Quadratec is a retailer not a manufacturer. I just searched to try to find out who makes Jeep hard tops and couldn't find anything. There have been a few instances of the black finish peeling or chipping away on the Jeep hardtops. But nothing to the extent we see here. Even when the JL and Gladiator first came out there was nothing like this. And they were brand new designs. Maybe Ford needs to look into who does Jeep hard top manufacturing.

 

[RogueAce70]

I hope you are one of those people who get frustrated enough to move on and buy a different product. For you and the others on this thread who think some social media campaign is going to resolve what is not a problem is inconsiderate of us fellow Bronco customers who want their Bronco with a hard top.

No one on this thread has offered ANY proof that the deviations in appearance of the seams is truly a functional problem that will prevent the MIC top from meeting the requirements of its design goals. The issue is only cosmetic at this point. Prospective (2-door) Bronco owners such as me are willing to accept the REST of the vehicle with all the other potential flaws it may have and work any and all design and workmanship issues with their vehicles through the warranty process.

I don't think a few instances of MIC top seam pics showing rough edges on an incredibly small sample of delivered Broncos warrants a social media campaign to bring down Ford to its knees and force prospective owners to accept your solution of being delivered a Bronco 2-door with a soft top.

Until any of you post proof that the seam appearance inconsistencies ARE an actual quality problem that makes the MIC top not fit for use, why not just keep your mouths shut on something you actually don't know what you are talking about and let the rest of us holders get their trucks and deal with any potential quality issues directly with Ford through their dealership.

You obviously don’t understand the meaning of “If” & you just want to be an ass on here!! Have a good day!!

 

[da_jokker]

I've posted a couple times along with this topic and that I recently bought a 2015 Wrangler and I'm really impressed with the top. It's been through rainstorms car washes, hell I even pressure wash it and nothing, not a single drop of water inside.

Now of course there's the design problem when you open the door and the rain gutter dumps a bunch of water into the floor, but when it comes to the top and it's ability to seal... They got it down....No split seems, no honeycomb, and no leaking. And that's on a vehicle that was built almost 8 years ago!

 

[Traillme]

My feeling is that Ford should start offering a no top or Bimini only option for their Bronco builds. They can deliver them in plastic wrap. We can get our Broncos faster, save a little bit of cash on the front end, and then splurge a little more on an aftermarket solution that meets our needs - who’s with me?

 

[cowman]

My feeling is that Ford should start offering a no top or Bimini only option for their Bronco builds. They can deliver them in plastic wrap. We can get our Broncos faster, save a little bit of cash on the front end, and then splurge a little more on an aftermarket solution that meets our needs - who’s with me?

Not me.....

 

[Dragline]

I don't think, based on the information currently available, there is a quality issue with the MIC.

A separation in the layers of an exposed edge of a lamination isn't a quality issue in your opinion?

 

[Tonka Bronka]

My feeling is that Ford should start offering a no top or Bimini only option for their Bronco builds. They can deliver them in plastic wrap. We can get our Broncos faster, save a little bit of cash on the front end, and then splurge a little more on an aftermarket solution that meets our needs - who’s with me?

Brother I know you want your truck but at some point you’re going to need a top. I know this sucks.

 

[Ford Motor Company]

Updated photo from this AM. My hands aren't Samsquatch in real life, that's just the zoom level. You can see the fuzzy look on the edge, and that wasn't there when I picked it up 5 days ago. You REALLY have to be looking for it though.

Bad news, folks. This is a MIC 2.0 top built 10/1, delivered 4 days ago.

Top looked excellent at pickup. Did not notice any issues.. 4 days later, I notice I can see the old issue returning. Have not notified Ford yet.

Check your MIC tops CLOSELY on the rearmost panel by the windows. Appears to be pulling apart a bit.

I'll have a lot more photos and any other misc info coming shortly.



There is also slight honeycombing.

Edited for brevity.


Updated with some photos posted later in thread by @AJ_West_

Hi there, Thomas! Please send us a private message with your Bronco's VIN and current mileage, I'd like to assist with this issue you're experiencing. Thanks!

 

[SpringTXOR]

Hi there, Thomas! Please send us a private message with your Bronco's VIN and current mileage, I'd like to assist with this issue you're experiencing. Thanks!

@Ford Motor Company I am having the same issues as are a lot of people on here.

 

[Deleted member 12876]

I'm really not sure what everyone was expecting. Whether it took Ford/Webasto 3 weeks or 3 months to "re-tool" they were not changing the design of the MIC top.

Once I saw it was cardboard sprayed with plastic I immediately changed my order to a soft top.

Cardboard. Sprayed. With. Plastic.

That's the MIC top. Spraying more plastic and applying more pressure to the seams doesn't change the fact at its core - the MIC top is cardboard.

Any money that went into the Bronco was in the aesthetic design and the off road capabilities (and we've seen corners cut there).

I had previously test drove a Badlands and the awe of being in a Bronco had me largely wash over any of its shortcomings. After months of stewing over every post on here about Broncos. I recently went in and test drove a Maverick and then sat in the same Badlands I drove a few months ago.

Compared to a $23,500 trucklet built by the same damn company - the Bronco has shit build quality and there is simply no other way to put it. The Maverick is unapologetic where it makes concessions where as the Bronco wants you to feel like it has durability and not hollow plastic. Even the Maverick's interior quality would be a significant step up from the Broncos.

The window snag/bouncing is real. The interiors of both demos had scratches all on them. I noticed numerous paint chips all on the front of it.

This DOESN'T mean I don't still love the Bronco. I ordered my MavBrid but spent most of the hour and fifteen minutes I was back in the dealership talking about the Broncos with the salesman and manager and about the hope of my MY22 arriving.

I just think we need to be real with ourselves. This is a profit vehicle for Ford so there are going to be corners cut. It's also a new vehicle for Ford so we're going to deal with quite a few growing pains the 2025 refresh will not deal with. We're buying an off road rig that is loud and is going to be creeky and noisy. It's still awesome. Really awesome.

But don't be disappointed when your cardboard top starts to fail. It's fucking cardboard.

Did you know that they make airplane propeller out compressed sawdust.
aka DA40…

 

[SoCal Driver]

Picked ours up about a week ago...same same. 2.0 top still had honeycomb issue. Wasn't gonna stop us from taking her home though.

My Bronco will be over 60k, for that price this is not acceptable!!

 

[Dragline]

No. Not at this point. There is no proof water can cause any damage. Seem delamination doesn't necessarily mean the top will become defective. Unless someone has done a destructive test to evaluate if the seam edge is the only seal between the two panels and water can propagate into the top cavity and damage the internal structure, I'll remain positive the MIC top quality is good.

Gotta disagree with you on that. It certainly is a quality issue. While I agree it is not known if this will lead to catastrophic failure, it certainly isn't the way it's supposed to be. The unreinforced outer layer at the delam is at risk of failure, if nothing else. Moderate pressure from one finger is sufficient to deflect the outer layer at the void.

 

[710-oil-614]

Did you know that they make airplane propeller out compressed sawdust.
aka DA40…

And I bet it doesn't fall apart when subjected to moisture.

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