📣 Ford announces MIC hardtop solution (program 21B49): unscheduled orders will get MY2022, delivered & built Broncos will have tops replaced

[sirvegetable]

I guess I'm just different in my thinking on this news in that I'm actually OK with it. Yes, I have to wait even longer now since I'm a 4-door squatch with hard top, but it's probably only another 5-6 months. But I'm now getting a MY22 which will have some added improvements, especially the 4-door squatch roof rack option. Maybe I'll even switch to the Green color. Plus they are giving me "cash" for said roof rack and maybe some other accessories. Also this gives my more time to save up money for the eventual down payment. The trade off is 1) Time and 2) I have to drive my existing car longer and fingers crossed it will last another 5-6 months. So overall I just feel this is a little more patience on my part and in the end I will be happier than I would have been- my production letter will be a nice Christmas present!!!! (hopefully)

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[Brwn79bronco]

Only if you don’t have a VIN issued yet.

Hmm, my salesman told me I can't change my order. I was thinking maybe it's because I have a 2door.

 

[WuNgUn]

I really think the "new design" roof is NOT a thing and was NEVER a thing, this forum is the only place I've ever heard about this, the unavailability is by design, Ford's choice, I've never heard anything from an official source?
I also find the dynamic weight rating a bit puzzling considering Ford will provide you a 130lbs tent to put on top of it with warrantee!

Sure, they'll sell you a 130 lbs tent... They'll just tell you, you can't drive with it up there!

 

[ReimundKrohn]

Hope I'm not repeating something already stated somewhere in the last 40+ pages of responses, but am I understanding correctly that if a reservation holder of a hard top Bronco doesn't already have a production date (excluding First Edition), then they will NOT receive a '21 Bronco and will roll into the '22 model?

Yes. No Production Date (VIN), no 2021.

 

[mpeugeot]

Do we know if this new design has been tested? Any chance we could end up in exactly the same position in 2 months?

I would imagine that they are already hitting the production line and if you read carefully through the document, it suggests that models built up to 21 Jul 2021 are affected, but nothing about the build dates in August.

I would suggest that the August builds could potentially be low production MIC V2 Guinea pigs following the 1 week shutdown. We won't know until they are released from QA and shipped. If they ship early, then they obviously will have V2 tops, if not... Dirt mountain.

 

[mbagne]

Hope I'm not repeating something already stated somewhere in the last 40+ pages of responses, but am I understanding correctly that if a reservation holder of a hard top Bronco doesn't already have a production date (excluding First Edition), then they will NOT receive a '21 Bronco and will roll into the '22 model?

Yes, I believe that sums it up . . .

 

[BDSQTCH21]

Doing some back of the napkin math. All of these are guesses. Anyone else have some more solid numbers?
The number of MIC tops needed:
- FE - Builds = 7,000 (this includes delivered, dirt pit and to be built FE's)
- Dirt Pit (MAP hostage) Broncos = Say 2,000 (excluding FE's above)
- Already delivered hard top Broncos = Say 3,000 (excluding FE's above).
- 2021 VIN generated but not built Bronco's (scheduled in June and July with delayed production) = Say 6,000

That totals to 18,000 Bronco hard tops needed to complete 2021 production.

When will Webasto production of the new improved MIC tops begin? IDK, lets use October 11.

How many tops can Webasto produce per day? IDK lets use 500 per day. and figure the plant is running 6 days a week just to be optimistic. That would be 3,000 tops per week or six weeks of production to build the 18,000 tops with no disruptions.

That takes up to Thanksgiving to produce the needed tops for 2021 production.

If Ford produces 2021 Broncos into the first week or two of December then I think they can get everything above accomplished. But, there isn't any wiggle room (unless Webasto can somehow produce more than 500 tops per day).

I think your numbers may be off. Ross said there's only like 300 MIC tops in customer hands, I seriously doubt 3000. Also some of the FE's are dirt pile Bronc's. I also don't think 6000 MIC tops are in production que.

That being said 500 per day out of Webasto is probably way optimistic. 200-300 is probably closer. I figure they need around 10000 to complete my21.

It's definitely going to be a tight squeeze for Ford to deliver on this.

 

[bigtexyahoocom]

I don’t understand how they didn’t know the tops were crap to begin with.

They did. They just thought they weren’t crappy enough to need replacement. They were wrong.

 

[Baddie64]

Yes, I believe that sums it up . . .

22 and beyond……

 

[Efthreeoh]

The question with all of this is Will Ford actually be able to fix the top issue that quickly? I have no faith in this company anymore, why should I think they could get the job done right? They just keep kicking the ball down the street. I ordered a base bronco, a BASE! and they can't give me a timeline because I have a hardtop and V6. How dumb is this company that the V6 is a constraint!! Its the dumbest thing in the world. I don't want to wait for another year hoping for a timeline or window of when to expect it just to get another shitty post pushing me back to model year 2023 because I honestly believe Ford is going to keep doing this every couple months, the hardtop situation is a complete disaster that will take awhile to fix. Also gonna hate seeing dumb dumbs in soft top big bends driving around for the next couple months while those of us who've had orders and reservations for over a YEAR wait with no actual timeline from Ford. I've been looking at 4runners and Taco's for awhile now and if they give me a couple month wait to build then I'm jumping ship and 99'ing my order to 23. Ive wanted a bronco since I was a little kid seeing them at the dream cruise, I hate Ford for screwing up this badly and completely botching the response to their screwup. They've turned excitement and joy into hatred and depression #FUCKFORD @FordMotorCompany

So much for the open and transparent communication from FoMoCo, huh. You're still mad anyway.

Lol.

 

[fraserjr]

That's not how I read this at all. Sounds to me like order of events is:

1) Build FE's with good or bad tops (to replace later) and get them out the door

2) Once redesign tops are available fix the Bad Batch Broncos and ship them out the door

3) Once all bad batch Broncos are off the lot, ship out tops to already delivered original design MIC owners.

4) Pat everyone on the back for another flawless vehicle launch.

What do you think they are going to put on top of the First Editions? There are currently no good MIC tops. They need to be retooled and built from scratch which doesn't start until September/October.

 

[BeastMode]

I can't thank you all enough for posting here. I'm getting ZERO info from dealer- even when asking questions addressed here. If it wasn't for this forum I'd be ABSOLUTELY in the dark... and walking to work!

Most likely not your dealers fault. My husband is my dealer and he just found this morning at the same time that everyone on this forum did, and they had their Ford Rep at the dealership yesterday and asked them about the delay in mine and another clients Bronco's that were build mid-July. The rep told the owner of the dealership they didn't know. So dealers have not been keeping anyone in the dark. They haven't heard anything until now either.

 

[cowman]

Here you go Ford....

 

[Bronco23]

That new 22 Pathfinder is starting to look like a great option while ford figures this out over the next 2-3 years. I am willing to wait, but I need a replacement in the very near future, and with Used car resale values at a premium right now, It may be the time to move and circle back in a few years to the Bronco, some real communication from Ford would help me make up my mind.

 

[Magnitude Flow]

lmfao, there are less paint options planned. You'll get the same product but it will just cost you more.

Order in before 3/19 so price wont change, the paint option are shiiiittt so no loss there..

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