You can’t make any changes once you are issued a VIN unfortunately. Wish Ford would change that for people who don’t have their Bronco built yet like yourself.Ok, does anyone know if we can make the switch to soft top if we have a VIN and build date (or 3)? I was 7/23, 8/16 and now 8/30. But my current vehicle is a Flex on lease due back in Oct so I was really hoping to get my Bronco by then. I’m assuming it’s too late to change, but at this point I’d rather get the soft top and wait for the painted top that doesn’t suck in 2 years.
Ummmm…. Did you read the title of that thread?File this under "Posts that didn't age well".
code 99 never felt good until today!Wait... Ford is just NOW talking about a new design and new tooling....?
Have they just sat on their hands for the last 5 months, hoping the problem would fix itself?? I'm totally taken aback...
How long before they even have a new, tested and proofed roof in production?
VINless peeps will definitely get a MY22, but all those with a VIN (with held, parked trucks) will be getting a MY21 in 2022. I hate to say it, but that sucks to be in that group.
LOT rot will certainly be a concern.
I kind of read the guidance (based on the delivery estimate for MAP Broncos to be delivered in September as opposed to October) to be that they're going to try and fix the MAP Broncos first, then start shipping "replacement kits" to current owners afterwards. Is your contact telling you that the order you're talking about (current owners, MAP Broncos, First Editions) is correct? Just curious based on the wording of the release.No. MIC hardtop production for unscheduled First Edition builds will resume late this year with the updated hardtop design. I wouldn't expect this until probably November, as the new tooling still needs to be completed, installed, and tested before production of the new hard tops can begin. Once that happens, they have committed to building new MIC hardtops for all units that have already been delivered, then the "bad batch" Broncos trapped at MAP, THEN for production of new units.
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This is also me. I would gladly switch to a soft top but can't at this point. I have a VIN since April. I have reached out to see if there is a way but haven't gotten word back yet.If I have been assigned a VIN since May and have been pushed back 8 times already with a current build date of August 30th, why can’t Ford just finagle the VIN and allow us to switch to a softop. It’s like my build is now trapped in this uncertain limbo. At this point I’m considering dumping Ford altogether because of the uncertainty and issue with them locking in the MIC with the assigned VIN.
Without revealing much, I can at least say someone with knowledge of the situation told me there was an entirely new process and new supplier for the basic hard top at least as early as around 30 days ago, but yeah, it seems this should have been ironed out a year ago at least.Wait... Ford is just NOW talking about a new design and new tooling....?
Have they just sat on their hands for the last 5 months, hoping the problem would fix itself?? I'm totally taken aback...
How long before they even have a new, tested and proofed roof in production?
VINless peeps will definitely get a MY22, but all those with a VIN (with held, parked trucks) will be getting a MY21 in 2022. I hate to say it, but that sucks to be in that group.
LOT rot will certainly be a concern.
So, is there any info on how many Soft Tops they can produce, or are planning to produce per week through the rest of the year? Thanks for all the info.Hey, you have every right to be a dick. This has been a mess.
The design issue is the unfinished edges. Initially, these were to be treated and sealed but it was never successful. The "coating" applied at the plant lasted for about a week, if that. The other issues plaguing the MIC top - thickness of outer ply, uniformity of material thickness, and forming issues within the clamshell - were perhaps made more challenging by the tooling but not necessarily impossible. This new design and tooling should aid in ALL these factors.
As for the 8/2 "full speed" production, that was the plan. Heels were firmly dug in on the engineering of the top and all fingers were pointed towards Plymouth. There was hope that the "best" of the roof units being delivered to MAP could at least be used to complete FE and stranded builds, but as more and more units were evaluated, it became clear that it was a bigger liability to release more of these out into the wild than to just scrap the thing and start over.
Like I said last night, this move HURTS... especially the "bad batch" crew of 2,200+ builds stuck at MAP, but it's absolutely the best way to address it at this juncture. A LOT of these headaches could have been alleviated by pulling the plug when the first issues became apparent, but that's not where we are.