Here starts the dealer games

[gentlemanbronco]

Dang, was hoping there'd be an update with positive results by now...
This is exactly one of my fears getting my bronco....

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[gentlemanbronco]

If the release and build would have been done properly and on schedule, and as it was presented to us by Ford over a year ago, would dealers still be on the ADM trend? One can come up with as many conspiracies as they want from this aspect........

Yes.... it's called supply and demand, and first year, regardless if supply met demand, it still would've been sold out, and ADM is always rampant on 1st year high demand vehicles.... look at the new vette, the new supra etc....

 

[okbob]

Yes.... it's called supply and demand, and first year, regardless if supply met demand, it still would've been sold out, and ADM is always rampant on 1st year high demand vehicles.... look at the new vette, the new supra etc....

Even now not all dealers are charging ADM though. Did all dealers charge ADM on the new vette, supra, etc or just some dealers?

 

[gentlemanbronco]

Even now not all dealers are charging ADM though. Did all dealers charge ADM on the new vette, supra, etc or just some dealers?

Most dealers charged ADM on those vehicles, and some still are...
As long as a dealer can make extra cash with ADM, it will still be something...

 

[omega145]

So 35 pages in, no updates from the customer, dealership or Ford?

 

[Roll Sound]

So 35 pages in, no updates from the customer, dealership or Ford?

It's a hot potato for sure.

 

[mackdriver431]

I'd be calling the regional Ford Corporate representative and have the dealership franchise license revoked.

YES, SEND A CERTFIED LETTER TO REGIONAL REP , DO NOT LET THEM GET AWAY WITH THIS.

 

[spada]

YES, SEND A CERTFIED LETTER TO REGIONAL REP , DO NOT LET THEM GET AWAY WITH THIS.

They already got away with it. A bunch of strangers have already driven his Bronco.

 

[Lakelife36]

Exactly. Misrepresentation. Easy. Fraud. Not as easy, but not impossible. Also, in most states, oral promises are enforceable if you take action on the oral promise; especially if $ is tendered and accepted (I.e. reservation and subsequent deposit). For sport I would have filed a TRO preventing the sale, and sought the equitable remedy of specific performance (sell me the car I ordered at MSRP). You can get a TRO ex parte (without notice to the dealer). The sale would then be enjoined for 14 days without a fight. I get it, some people would sit back and take it in the shorts. That’s their prerogative. I would not, but then again I would not have to hire an attorney. It really wouldn’t be as difficult as some seem to believe.

@Razorback When you used the term "consideration" did you mean it in the legal sense as one of the things necessary for a contract to be binding? If so, do you know if a refundable deposit towards the eventual purchase price counts as consideration for contract 1 in a contract 1/contract 2 purchase scenario?

 

[da_jokker]

Here is a new one, got this from another forum, but guu went in to pick up his Bronco and...

• I was pre-approved from my local credit union for a very good APR and the dealer stated I had to use Ford credit and the Ford APR was HUGE!!!! I was told this is a common Ford practice with new vehicle models. No worries, I'll be dumping the Ford loan next month.

 

[Zach@Granger]

Out of curiosity, did Ford offer dealer stock units to your dealership?

No, we've been able to fill all of our demand with retail units.

 

[iamchewby]

Seems GP Ford is not new to bait and switch .
https://www.bbb.org/us/tx/grand-pra...s/grand-prairie-ford-0875-22000459/complaints

I've lived around DFW all my life and I remember looking for a new vehicle 15 years ago and was told by multiple people to stay away from Grand Prarie... also Grapevine

 

[Efthreeoh]

Reading comprehension not your strong suit??? Go back and read what I wrote that you quoted….I’ll wait. And anyone that ordered a Bronco and didn’t sign a price agreement is a damn fool and deserves to get their Bronco sold out from under them.

Lol. BS.

 

[Efthreeoh]

YES, SEND A CERTFIED LETTER TO REGIONAL REP , DO NOT LET THEM GET AWAY WITH THIS.

Why are you YELLING!!!!!

 

[Monster1926]

No, we've been able to fill all of our demand with retail units.

Y'all keep repeating the same "ADM is not part of MSRP" statement, but consumers view this as bait and switch. If Ford says "price is X", and I rsvp. Then Ford and the dealer say "price is X", and I order. Then, if the dealer says " the price is really X + ADM", most consumers will think that is bullshit, even if technically legal.

The reality, unless I am wrong, nobody who has not taken possession of a Bronco has a contract for purchase. Until the dealer has the vehicle and the buyer hands over the $$$, any dealer can adjust their pricing. That fact undercuts the entire reservations system.



What contract do you have in place that will force a dealer to sell you a product, or force a buyer to buy a product? If you can walk away from the deal, so too can the dealer and you do not have a contract, you have an agreement. Agreements require trust and honor to uphold.

Good and it’s the way it should be.

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