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[securitysix]

Honestly your driving experience sounds more like the 3.3l than the 2.7l. I don't think I've ever heard anybody say the 2.7 is a dog. I, too, would love a V8. I just can't see it happening (from the factory).

I'm really surprised by the amount of people afraid of turbos on this site. Maybe I'm the lucky one... but out of 4 turbo charged vehicles I've never experienced a turbo failure. I don't do any extreme preventative maintenance procedures. ALWAYS full synthetic. Change it every time I change my tires(fall, spring). Whatever brand oil is on sale. No issues. I don't baby my vehicles either. For those that have experienced issues how many miles did you have on the vehicle? What type of conditions are you driving in? Genuinely curious. I'm RARELY in stop and go traffic. Perhaps it's a cooling issue?

I've never had a vehicle with a turbo, I'm just paranoid about unnecessary complexity.

I also don't change my tires twice a year...

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[guernsej]

Would that hurt warranty? I hate to imagine buying a new vehicle that shuts down at stop lights like the worst of the 70s and 80s from Detroit and the British.
Im hopeful that by sticking with the manual option I won’t have to worry about the start stop system since it’s typically left off of those vehicles.

Get in, disable auto start/stop, turn on seat and steering wheel heaters (it's coooold in San Diego), and I'm off. I'd rather it keep your previous setting but I get why they can't do that, and disabling it is habit now so not too bothersome. In my truck it automatically disables when you select a drive mode other than normal/weather, disable traction control, or enable 4wd - I assume Bronco will be similar.

Definitely not worried about the engines. I expect they'll have a little something for everyone...except the "gotta have a V8" guys I guess. 3.5TT has been bulletproof for me the past few years and I put it through some shit. 10 speed on the other hand seems to need a reflash every year or so but it's great until it's not.

 

[OX1]

Would that hurt warranty? I hate to imagine buying a new vehicle that shuts down at stop lights like the worst of the 70s and 80s from Detroit and the British.
Im hopeful that by sticking with the manual option I won’t have to worry about the start stop system since it’s typically left off of those vehicles.

Another way that should be a little less intrusive, warantee wise.

 

[Adk_st]

I've never had a vehicle with a turbo, I'm just paranoid about unnecessary complexity.

I also don't change my tires twice a year...

Summers+snows

 

[Streetfish]

This all adds a secondary issue, I can’t get past the psychological barrier of spending $30k+ on a 4 cylinder anything. Frankly it’s hard for me to imagine spending $20k to be stuck with a 4 cylinder, yet this truck looks that good.
I don’t think this keeps me out of the market as I see dealers selling 4x4 Rangers in the mid 20k range so I imagine after some times passes a 2 dr 7 speed 4x4 should be able to be had a sliver under $30k to keep me sane.

I'm not sure if you are entirely ruling out hybrids (sounds like you might be since you are a NA V8 guy) but in the hybrid version there is a chance the Bronco would get the same engine as in the explorer (3.0 NA V6 + electric motor hybrid).

There have also been a few rumors of a the same engine as in the Lincoln Aviator in the top end 'raptor/R model (3.5 EcoBoost V6 from the f150+ electric motor delivering 494HP/630 torque.)

Of course they could also make the 2.3 or 2.7 a hybrid but i don't think they offer that combo in any other vehicle.

 

[securitysix]

Summers+snows

We don't get gobs of snow down here in OK, but we get a bit, plus our share of ice (which is worse than snow). I just run the same tires year round.

 

[NCOBX]

Honestly your driving experience sounds more like the 3.3l than the 2.7l. I don't think I've ever heard anybody say the 2.7 is a dog. I, too, would love a V8. I just can't see it happening (from the factory).

I'm really surprised by the amount of people afraid of turbos on this site. Maybe I'm the lucky one... but out of 4 turbo charged vehicles I've never experienced a turbo failure. I don't do any extreme preventative maintenance procedures. ALWAYS full synthetic. Change it every time I change my tires(fall, spring). Whatever brand oil is on sale. No issues. I don't baby my vehicles either. For those that have experienced issues how many miles did you have on the vehicle? What type of conditions are you driving in? Genuinely curious. I'm RARELY in stop and go traffic. Perhaps it's a cooling issue?

iirc my truck lost the turbo around 43,000 miles, I would bet 85% of miles I put on the truck were with cruise control on. If I wasn’t driving from my house to site on the highway then I was driving through back roads back and forth to hotels. Oil was changed about every 5k miles which is pretty standard. No towing ever. Truck was an extended cab 4x4 F150.

I know diesel trucks have turbos because they’re just about required, but they’ve never made sense to me to put turbos in gas engines when simply increasing displacement has the same end result minus the added complication.

I always heard good things about the 2.7L from online publications but mine didn’t feel special to me and my experience with it did not inspire confidence. Could I have had a bad one? Possibly? I’m not sure but I’m not willing to put my own money on the 2.7L specifically after my experience.

After all, how many turbo failures do folks with naturally aspirated engines have?

 

[Adk_st]

We don't get gobs of snow down here in OK, but we get a bit, plus our share of ice (which is worse than snow). I just run the same tires year round.

To each their own. I've done winters on all seasons...I learned my lesson. It can be done but it's not even close. Snow tires for me. Especially since work doesn't stop for me if the weather is foul. I actually enjoy driving in winter. I'm in the Adirondacks in actual upstate NY. We get storms that can drop snow by the foot a couple times a year. This year we got a few ice storms(which I agree... definitely worse).

 

[OX1]

Honestly your driving experience sounds more like the 3.3l than the 2.7l. I don't think I've ever heard anybody say the 2.7 is a dog.

Possibly due to the 2.7 being pretty much done @ 4500.
My Fusion is very quick up to around 80 and then it kind of falls
off (or feels like it does, compared to how quick it is in the lower speeds).

There is one guy that finally got into the 11's, trapping about what new
Mustang GT's do, but he did go with massaged MKZ turbos, which is what got
him over the hump........ (and E40)

https://www.fusionsportforums.com/threads/first-ford-fusion-sport-into-the-11s-world-record.19617/

 

[NCOBX]

I have a feeling that the Bronco is going to be a huge deal when it hits the market, I think I will be able to deal with the 4 cylinder until the aftermarket builds up. Once the aftermarket gets involved we will start seeing V8 kits hit the market that will simplify conversions with correct adaptor plates, specialized ECUs, engine mounts, multitudes of adaptors etc.

I doubt my 4 cylinder will be long for the world after that, my Bronco will either be getting a Ford V8, or a aluminum LS based engine. Either way my end goal is to have open top cruising with the sweet sound of a V8 exiting both sides of my truck and a stick shift in the floor.

Fords welcome to get more of my money than the base truck cost, but if they choose not then I’ll make it the way I want it myself.

 

[Adk_st]

iirc my truck lost the turbo around 43,000 miles, I would bet 85% of miles I put on the truck were with cruise control on. If I wasn’t driving from my house to site on the highway then I was driving through back roads back and forth to hotels. Oil was changed about every 5k miles which is pretty standard. No towing ever. Truck was an extended cab 4x4 F150.

I know diesel trucks have turbos because they’re just about required, but they’ve never made sense to me to put turbos in gas engines when simply increasing displacement has the same end result minus the added complication.

I always heard good things about the 2.7L from online publications but mine didn’t feel special to me and my experience with it did not inspire confidence. Could I have had a bad one? Possibly? I’m not sure but I’m not willing to put my own money on the 2.7L specifically after my experience.

After all, how many turbo failures do folks with naturally aspirated engines have?

Man that's really low mileage. Oil starvation? Turbos aren't really that complicated (they can be but I don't see Ford adding electric turbos, etc on this).

 

[Adk_st]

Possibly due to the 2.7 being pretty much done @ 4500.
My Fusion is very quick up to around 80 and then it kind of falls
off (or feels like it does, compared to how quick it is in the lower speeds).

There is one guy that finally got into the 11's, trapping about what new
Mustang GT's do, but he did go with massaged MKZ turbos, which is what got
him over the hump........ (and E40)

https://www.fusionsportforums.com/threads/first-ford-fusion-sport-into-the-11s-world-record.19617/

Ford tends to use as small a turbo as they can get away with for their targeted power goals. It's nice for low-mid end but top end is limited. What do the f150s with the 2.7 run? I know the 3.5l with a tune runs 13's. That's pretty damn solid for a full size truck imo.

 

[NCOBX]

Man that's really low mileage. Oil starvation? Turbos aren't really that complicated (they can be but I don't see Ford adding electric turbos, etc on this).

I was getting a lot of smoke even in general driving, I don’t know exactly what failed in the turbo but I thought it failed entirely too early even for my cautious expectations.

 

[Bronc-O]

The way things are starting to go, it won't be long before we're glad to have an engine as big as the 2.7. They're already putting 1.5 three cylinder engines in some models as the base option.

 

[frinesi2]

The way things are starting to go, it won't be long before we're glad to have an engine as big as the 2.7. They're already putting 1.5 three cylinder engines in some models as the base option.

My buddy had a Fiesta with the 1.0 ecoboost.

Actually he had a Fiesta with THREE 1.0 ecoboosts in a row.

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