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It seems all of the aftermarket tops are shooting for Jan release. Armadillo should be shipping out their tops around that timeline as well.
 

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It seems all of the aftermarket tops are shooting for Jan release. Armadillo should be shipping out their tops around that timeline as well.
Hopefully so will adv.
Le.ts keep our fingers crossed
 

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Well, I threw in the towel and went with TOR. It boils down to principle, price justification, and timing.

Principle:
No one can argue that this entire "launch" was handled terribly. I don't think we'll ever know the true reasons why, but even with all of the issues with rubber, labor, etc. the COMMUNICATION could've been handled much better. The speculation of fraud because of the initial deposit and shifting timelines with poor communication were all completely justified (and still are.)

Price Justification:
ADV created this market, and failed to seize on the opportunity they created. Instead, they fumbled a launch, creating competition with those failures and essentially killing their pricing position in the market now because everyone is cheaper and now they have to justify a premium.

Timing:
Like many others on this thread, I waited 1+ years with a full amount deposited down. Before I made this decision, I looked back on the timing of the videos, the promises, etc. It was astounding to think it has been this long, and even though I'd likely get an ADV top a month or so later than a TOR top, it goes back to the principle of it all.

I actually believe that ADV will come through and eventually get these tops out to their customers, and I believe it will be a great product. I also believe that TOR is coming in with a great hardtop solution, perhaps with some advantages in seeing what the competition has done and making it better?

One day, us Bronco owners will be able to order something Bronco related and get it when we think we should get it haha!
 
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Well, I threw in the towel and went with TOR. It boils down to principle, price justification, and timing.

Principle:
No one can argue that this entire "launch" was handled terribly. I don't think we'll ever know the true reasons why, but even with all of the issues with rubber, labor, etc. the COMMUNICATION could've been handled much better. The speculation of fraud because of the initial deposit and shifting timelines with poor communication were all completely justified (and still are.)

Price Justification:
ADV created this market, and failed to seize on the opportunity the created. Instead, they fumbled a launch, creating competition with those failures and essentially killing their pricing position in the market now because everyone is cheaper and now they have to justify a premium.

Timing:
Like many others on this thread, I waited 1+ years with a full amount deposited down. Before I made this decision, I looked back on the timing of the videos, the promises, etc. It was astounding to think it has been this long, and even though I'd likely get an ADV top a month or so later than a TOR top, it goes back to the principle of it all.

I actually believe that ADV will come through and eventually get these tops out to their customers, and I believe it will be a great product. I also believe that TOR is coming in with a great hardtop solution, perhaps with some advantages in seeing what the competition has done and making it better?

One day, us Bronco owners will be able to order something Bronco related and get it when we think we should get it haha!
Your points are right on the money.
As of today, we were promised we would get updates within 30 days , if not sooner.
I'm hoping they send something out today, but based on their track record , I'm not confident.
All they had to do is send out timely periodic updates, but the silence is deafening.
Hope you get your top soon.
You may get it before me, I'm holding out, I need the 1 piece
 

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Probably will be Friday at 5 rolling into the extended weekend (already called it once in this thread lol)
 

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Probably will be Friday at 5 rolling into the extended weekend (already called it once in this thread lol)
Hope you are correct.
Would be nicer to have the email today ,30th day since the last one.
Adv is 3 hrs behind the east coast , so anytime now is possible
 

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I’m honestly surprised more people local to SoCal haven’t visited their place in person. I did a few months ago. Nice people, nice warehouse, but rather empty besides a few prototypes. If they were sitting on my money for months or years, I’d be a bit more liberal about visiting. Hard to be dodgy when you sit down and have a real chat, face to face.
 

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Just got an email that says price increases on the 1st. TBD.
Oooh. Pressure tactics lol.

A price drop seems more appropriate given the current situation. Plenty of dumb people on FB and IG who will probably jump on it though, not knowing the full scope of ADV shadiness. The top would have to be 10 dB quieter and 15 degrees cooler/warmer and support 500 lbs. to justify the already $2k premium over the TOR, let alone another increase. In fact, everyone who has waited 12+ months should be getting free shipping. TORs shipping rates are 50%-75% lower and they are not "flat packed" requiring assembly. Shyster is about the kindest term I can call ADV ownership at this point.
 
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Oooh. Pressure tactics lol.

A price drop seems more appropriate given the current situation. Plenty of dumb people on FB and IG who will probably jump on it though. The top would have to be 10 dB quieter and 15 degrees cooler/warmer and support 500 lbs. to justify the already $2k premium over the TOR, let alone another increase. In fact, everyone who has waited 12+ months should be getting free shipping.
Amen to that free shipping! I thought they might end up doing that. I'm sure any tops that were forfeited for a refund will get sold, but the longevity of that price point will likely bite them in the end.
 

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Just got an email that says price increases on the 1st. TBD.
Prices going up to continue lining their pockets for a product that doesn't exist in the hands of customers yet?

Makes sense...
 

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Ooof! A price hike huh? One would think they would slightly adjust their prices.....I guess they are banking on being much more superior to other products...I guess...
 
 





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