Thoughts on buying a manual now?

[AZ_Liberty]

Unfortunately all 3 of those engines have different bellhousing patterns.

Mustang. Ford already has a bell housing to mate the 5.0 to the GETRAG transmission. And the 7MT is the same 6MT with an extra gear.

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[AZ_Liberty]

Mustang Getrag on the forums was perceived as flawed.... Look at how that turned out. Seems most still want the manual stang even if it has a getrag. Sometimes we forget that these forums are our little echo chamber

Give a Mustang buyer the choice of a GETRAG or TREMEC, and 95% of folks who know the difference will pick the TREMEC. The rest are just "stick make gears change"

Give a Bronco buyer an option of a TREMEC and most of us would take it.

 

[Tricky Dick]

Mustang. Ford already has a bell housing to mate the 5.0 to the GETRAG transmission. And the 7MT is the same 6MT with an extra gear.

Same family yes, but they'd still need to cast a new 5.0L case for the MT88. I don't have them physically side by side, but it's obvious enough in pictures that the MT82 and MT88 cases vary enough that there won't be a lot of mix and matching.

Funny enough, Land Rover used a 4x4 MT82.

 

[NevadaDesertExploration]

If ford offered the manual in the 2.7 I would have ordered it over the auto.

 

[OrangecrushBronco]

This. Take a look at prices for a 5-10 year old used Mustang. Stick Shifts cost more because if someone wants the stick they simply won't consider the auto.

You can put me in that camp. I ordered mine with a stick. No stick, and I never even would have considered buying one.

I understand your take. I on the other hand was only in the market for a new vehicle because I needed an automatic. I kept and love my manual but daily driving on bad roads and in bad traffic in a manual takes the joy out of it. Fact is most drivers deal with stop and go traffic and most people can't afford a high priced highly restrained Bronco as just a side vehicle for driving off road. Ford only cares about what they can sell in mass and what they can sell for big money.

 

[Ixr]

Small sample size but I feel like way way more people can drive a manual but just don't. I swear almost every single person I know can drive a manual car, even my neighbor a 50 or 60 year old nice lady has a manual jeep.

I think when it comes down to it most people just don't want to deal with it as they are not enthusiast drivers and use cars to go from A to B. Also when car shopping dealers do not stock manuals.

Some people really just enjoy driving and the feeling, control, and enjoyment a manual offers.

It takes all of 30 minutes to teach someone.

 

[Mikeflo]

I tried ordering a Base with a stick & it was a no go. All dealers that had a base with a manual trans want a $5k-$10K mark up on a base. Freaking ridiculous. I'm glad I have mine but ordering a second seems like it will not happen for me.

 

[Lowcountry Bronco]

My bronco be my first purchase of a vehichle that is not Manuel transmission. Sortve upset about it but obx couldn't be ordered in stick shift when I went in 2 years ago.

Manuel is my favorite transmission!

There was allot of give and take in the Bronco line-up, @HoosierDaddy is 100% correct! It's so tiring going thru the trims and trying to decide if choosing one thing is worth giving up another.

I will give Ford credit in that they offered the Badlands with all the packages and a manual also with my HE that gave us the mid package and a manual (but would have loved the option of high).

Anyrate, sorry you missed out on Manuel!

 

[Lowcountry Bronco]

Small sample size but I feel like way way more people can drive a manual but just don't. I swear almost every single person I know can drive a manual car, even my neighbor a 50 or 60 year old nice lady has a manual jeep.

I think when it comes down to it most people just don't want to deal with it as they are not enthusiast drivers and use cars to go from A to B. Also when car shopping dealers do not stock manuals.

Some people really just enjoy driving and the feeling, control, and enjoyment a manual offers.

It takes all of 30 minutes to teach someone.

You answered your own question ...

a 50 or 60 year old ...

we pretty much had to learn on a manual. Funny though how car manufacturers used to market the brands ... Ford: cheap, manual, maybe fun, starter car; Mercury: a little nicer trim, automatic and you're moving up the ladder; Lincoln: luxury, definitely automatic, congrats! you've made it to the top!

 

[JT58Bronc]

When I reserved mine I was thinking manual- until they did not offer it with the 2.7. I wanted the lightest Bronco with the biggest engine and the 2.7 was auto only. Also my wife does not drive a manual so the automatic is more convenient. I love manuals though and most of my vehicles over the course of my life have been manual. I just got a new GTI, 6 speed manual as my daily commuter. It was very hard to find and I had to wait 2 months. Dealer had me on a list and called when one came in.

 

[bloominguez]

Give a Mustang buyer the choice of a GETRAG or TREMEC, and 95% of folks who know the difference will pick the TREMEC. The rest are just "stick make gears change"

Give a Bronco buyer an option of a TREMEC and most of us would take it.

Hmm, not sure I agree with that. Only 95%??? 95% seems awfully low for that comparison.

 

[BDBJ79]

I had an order placed for a manual Bronco, canceled it because of the grinding noise issues. Didn’t want to take the chance. And the fact that it was built and never showed up. I picked up 2.7 off a lot for no markup. And now that I’ve driven it, I can’t imagine having the 2.3. Got the chance to drive my buddy’s 2023 Acura Integra 6 speed manual for a couple weeks, and was super fun. But I’m glad I have the 2.7.

 

[Brnzbronc]

Give a Mustang buyer the choice of a GETRAG or TREMEC, and 95% of folks who know the difference will pick the TREMEC. The rest are just "stick make gears change"

Give a Bronco buyer an option of a TREMEC and most of us would take it.

I actually reach out to Tremac and asked if they would every have an option to replace the getrag. I got a probably not response..

 

[AZ_Liberty]

I kept and love my manual but daily driving on bad roads and in bad traffic in a manual takes the joy out of it. Fact is most drivers deal with stop and go traffic and most people can't afford a high priced highly restrained Bronco as just a side vehicle for driving off road.

I drive my Bronco in Phoenix traffic every day. Before that, I drove a Mustang GT (manual), and before that a Mustang GT (manual) and before that a V6 Mustang (manual) and before that a Ranger (1998 also a stick). Prior to that was a Contour Sport (which was actually fun to drive with the 16-valve I-4 and stick shift)

Driving an automatic would be miserable.

 

[Brok3nBronco]

Personally, knowing what I know now....I would wait until they release a confirmed fix for the noisy manuals before buying one. It's only fun to drive until it ends up sitting on your dealers lot.

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