2.3 Manual... Rolling in Gear?

[JMHodges]

I've driven a lot of manual transmissions over the years from VW (Passat and Jetta), various trucks (Ford, Dodge, Chevy), Jeep Rubicon, C4 and C6 Vettes... you get the idea. Not new to me.

So I parked my 2.3 Manual Bronco outside a shop yesterday, left it in 4th like I always do, but forgot to put on the emergency brake. This is uncharacteristic of me and as far as I can recall the first time I've done it in the vehicle. I live on a fairly steep hill so I use it regularly.

The shop had maybe a 2 degree slope, nothing really. I hopped out and went inside. My wife was still sitting in the "parked" vehicle. She called me within about 3 minutes to say the Bronco had rolled into a ditch in front of the Bronco. Thankfully it was a slow roll into a low ditch. Put the bumper up against the side of a hill and sat there.

I came out and we both confirmed it was still in 4th gear by visually looking at the stick fully back in the middle position.

So... anyone else had their manual roll if the emergency brake isn't engaged? I'd expect it to be a problem on a steep hill, but this definitely didn't qualify as steep. Again, at best only a couple of degrees.

I came searching for this issue. I got my 2022 2.3l manual Bronco the last week of November and my driveway has a small slope. I always use the ebrake but my husband leaves in 1st gear. He rarely drives my car but it has rolled out of our driveway 4 times. I made an appointment with ford to have it checkedbout the first time it happened but it took 3 months to get it in. The dealership called yesterday and are having ford field service engineers come in to investigate.My husband and I have driven manuals all our lives and never had this issue. I’m also a quality engineer at a transmission plant and think this may be going the way of a recall. Did you get resolution?

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[JMHodges]

I came searching for this issue. I got my 2022 2.3l manual Bronco the last week of November and my driveway has a small slope. I always use the ebrake but my husband leaves in 1st gear. He rarely drives my car but it has rolled out of our driveway 4 times. I made an appointment with ford to have it checked the first time it happened but it took 3 months to get it in. The dealership called yesterday and are having ford field service engineers come in to investigate. The car rolled back off the bay while they were at lunch. My husband and I have driven manuals all our lives and never had this issue. I’m also a quality engineer at a transmission plant and think this may be going the way of a recall. Did you get resolution?

 

[JMHodges]

Edited to add the car rolling with the dealer service … and fix a spelling error

 

[DrewBronc21]

I came searching for this issue. I got my 2022 2.3l manual Bronco the last week of November and my driveway has a small slope. I always use the ebrake but my husband leaves in 1st gear. He rarely drives my car but it has rolled out of our driveway 4 times. I made an appointment with ford to have it checkedbout the first time it happened but it took 3 months to get it in. The dealership called yesterday and are having ford field service engineers come in to investigate.My husband and I have driven manuals all our lives and never had this issue. I’m also a quality engineer at a transmission plant and think this may be going the way of a recall. Did you get resolution?

Interesting as I thought it was confirmed to be normal for a really heavy vehicle with a small motor. It doesn’t have enough compression to hold the vehicle on an incline so you have to make sure it’s in low gear, R or C ans use the E brake.

I posted earlier in this thread that the same thing happened to me. I watched my Bronco rolling out of my driveway. Was in 1st gear, on moderate incline and I forgot to put the Ebrake on. This was never an issue for MANY manuals I have had in the past, Hondas, Nissans, Toyota, Subarus, but they were all smaller cars.

 

[NC_Pinz]

I came searching for this issue. I got my 2022 2.3l manual Bronco the last week of November and my driveway has a small slope. I always use the ebrake but my husband leaves in 1st gear. He rarely drives my car but it has rolled out of our driveway 4 times. I made an appointment with ford to have it checkedbout the first time it happened but it took 3 months to get it in. The dealership called yesterday and are having ford field service engineers come in to investigate.My husband and I have driven manuals all our lives and never had this issue. I’m also a quality engineer at a transmission plant and think this may be going the way of a recall. Did you get resolution?

This can happen in any manual vehicle depending on engine compression. It is not a recall issue but about learning the vehicle. Crawler gear would be better than first, and setting the parking brake is really a requirement and not just a recommendation.

I've had this happen in vehicles before dating back to the 70s. Depends on the vehicle, engine compression, gear chosen, and what gear is it in.

 

[Area51BS]

Why does the Bronco lack some things cheaper Fords have such as the Maverick. The Maverick goes into park if you open a door while stopped. It also applies parking brake on an incline automatically. While thinking about it, the Goat mode dial works in both directions on a Maverick.

 

[Techun]

He rarely drives my car but it has rolled out of our driveway 4 times.

Slow learner, huh?

 

[Techun]

Why does the Bronco lack some things cheaper Fords have such as the Maverick. The Maverick goes into park if you open a door while stopped. It also applies parking brake on an incline automatically. While thinking about it, the Goat mode dial works in both directions on a Maverick.

Lots of dial shifter vehicles do this. It's useful but also annoying. For instance if you want to move a running vehicle forward a foot with the door open it turns into a whole ordeal.

 

[Jimmiee]

Many people have replied about driving a manual and never having this problem. How many people have driven a 3500 lb vehicle with a 122 cubic inch engine? This is the reason the vehicle roll’s spinning the engine.

 

[Area51BS]

Lots of dial shifter vehicles do this. It's useful but also annoying. For instance if you want to move a running vehicle forward a foot with the door open it turns into a whole ordeal.

true.

 

[NC_Pinz]

Why does the Bronco lack some things cheaper Fords have such as the Maverick. The Maverick goes into park if you open a door while stopped. It also applies parking brake on an incline automatically. While thinking about it, the Goat mode dial works in both directions on a Maverick.

The Maverick is also an automatic. This discussion is about a manual Bronco. The manuals do have hill start assist where the parking brake helps folks that have trouble with a clutch and starting off uphill. The door opening / park thing...just doesn't apply here.

 

[Lowcountry Bronco]

Many people have replied about driving a manual and never having this problem. How many people have driven a 3500 lb vehicle with a 122 cubic inch engine? This is the reason the vehicle roll’s spinning the engine.

I have an old 2002 Ford Ranger with the 2.3 and 5 speed and have never had it or any other manual vehicle I owned roll away. Google is saying my Ranger is 3k to 3.5k and Bronco is 4.2k to almost 5k pounds, guess I'm going to have to learn to start setting the parking brake.

 

[Area51BS]

The Maverick is also an automatic. This discussion is about a manual Bronco. The manuals do have hill start assist where the parking brake helps folks that have trouble with a clutch and starting off uphill. The door opening / park thing...just doesn't apply here.

The Maverick is also an automatic. This discussion is about a manual Bronco. The manuals do have hill start assist where the parking brake helps folks that have trouble with a clutch and starting off uphill. The door opening / park thing...just doesn't apply here.

I felt it brings up some questions about the Bronco. If a 2.3 can roll in gear then why wouldn’t Ford do the automatic parking brake? It’s electric just like the Maverick.[/QUOTE]

 

[BroncoAZ]

I would like to see Ford update the software to have the parking brake automatically engage when the truck is shut off in any gear or neutral.

 

[Area51BS]

I would like to see Ford update the software to have the parking brake automatically engage when the truck is shut off in any gear or neutral.

It was nice in the Maverick. Hit off and park is set as is parking brake if on a hill.

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