💰 Official: $2500 Order Modification Offer to Wildtrak Customers (switch trims) and Non-Wildtrak Customers (modify order to remove constraints)

[Blown331]

True.
However, that route to me would be considered an unreliable source, since the hardtop 4 door is still an option there and you obviously cannot get that now.

Some orders will still have hard tops. They are still producing them. It's not like the hard top factory burnt down. You'll just be option 4. Maybe you get it, maybe you get cancelled.

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[Teke]

I keep seeing people post about how they have multiple Bronco orders and X many have been built and X many are in production/scheduled. Y'all are only adding to the issue when you don't intend on purchasing the vehicle. IMO it's just screwing us unbuilt orders over even more.

 

[3TooMany]

They are all but saying that you won't get built... as others have said, once they sweep the offending orders out at the end of February, they will increase prices and open the order banks again (not keeping their word on maintaining 2023 price protection by eliminating orders that wouldn't change from WT - MIC, Lux, or Sasquatch at the end February 2023).

Ford can't be trusted to do the right thing. It does not mean that they won't do the right thing, but don't trust them to.

It’s actually a bit diabolical if you think about it - if you’re one of the hundreds of Granger customers that won’t change your order for a guaranteed build slot, the ones that do change effectively ensure that you won’t get your vehicle until the allocation debit is cleared. It could be years. Ford is forcing you to abandon your order from these dealers in this case.

This decision would also be a little easier if Ford announced pricing and availability of the hardtop for parts counter sale.

 

[KimDracula]

I keep seeing people post about how they have multiple Bronco orders and X many have been built and X many are in production/scheduled. Y'all are only adding to the issue when you don't intend on purchasing the vehicle. IMO it's just screwing us unbuilt orders over even more.

Truth. Why does someone need 3-4 bronco orders ‍ people ruin everything fast

 

[Vizsla23]

I couldn't imagine dropping from a Wildtrak to a Badlands with no sasquatch, and thinking $2500 was enough to make it right. It's gonna cost way more than $2500 to get you back to that. Hard top for soft top, argue all day about that, lux vs high, argue the merits of one over the other all day...but that Sasquatch, that would be a non starter to me. If it isn't sasquatched I'm not interested.

This person is best off looking at dealer stock. If it were me, I'd lok for something on a dealer lot or walk.

 

[SubmarineNuke]

This person is best off looking at dealer stock. If it were me, I'd lok for something on a dealer lot or walk.

just more reasons to be happy I have my Wildtrak and have been enjoying it and plan to continue it through this summer too

 

[dingle87]

Fixed that for you.

TLR on all 22 pages. Want to point this out if it was not between page 3 and 20.

The funny part, Wildtrak is Sasquatched. How do you remove Sasquatch from a Wildtrak?

It's not saying to remove those options from a Wildtrak. The graphic is saying you need to change out of Wildtrak all together. Non-Wildtrak gets the option to remove SAS and other items.

 

[Jonny way]

I just picked up my Bronco over the weekend. I can confirm, the dealer did mentioned this news to me.

2024 reservation holders will not get price protection.

I currently have another 2 door Base Sasquatch Bronco scheduled to go in production in a couple weeks.

Message me if anyone is interested, located in Southern California.

part of the problem!

 

[Jermd21]

Do you know of a dealer that has a BRaptor allocation available? Most dealers have used all of their braptor allocations for 2023.

I have a Bronco Raptor on order and would like to know the answer to the question above.

 

[HBirdman]

This has been discussed many times before and basically Ford knew that some dealers, like Granger, Stephans, and Chapman were offering below invoice deals and these dealers were initially given the go ahead. Ford changed the rules after the big box dealers that weren’t going to offer any deal at or below MSRP cried foul and, in response, Ford begin providing low monthly allocations to the below invoice dealers leaving those wanting a better deal wait forever or pony up extra $$ with another dealer. In addition, Ford left the order banks open until early last year which pushed certain reservation holders further down the list. Now Ford wants to end the nightmare they created by forcing order holders, especially those with below invoice deals, to take less in order to get a build. All the while Ford has communicated poorly at best with reservation and order holders. Ford created the problem, the pandemic and supply chain fiasco worsened it, and now, Bob‘s your uncle.

Thanks for catching me up.

But what evidence do we have for “these dealers were initially given the go ahead”? Do we have anything other than the offending dealers saying so?

I’ve done a lot of work in the automotive space and I’ve never seen a manufacturer/dealer agreement that would make this acceptable and not a breach with the other dealers. The other dealers were most likely well within their rights to complain.

 

[Spin’s2022]

If @Ford Motor Company had chosen to honor reservations over allocations from the beginning they would not be in this mess.

100%!!!

 

[mike8675309]

This comment is going to be unpopular and might get me in trouble.

But if what you wrote is true it tells you the real culprit here is the dealers who booked a gazillion orders with no allocation, not FoMoCo.

Can you imagine being a dealer and being told the manufacturer will bail you out but in exchange you’re getting no allocation, potentially for years? That’s death for a dealer.

This is why many manufacturers (not Ford) have contractual restrictions preventing dealers from selling outside of territory.

If this backlog clear/allocation restriction is true, anyone with orders from a heavily over-ordered dealer needs to be on high alert right now.

You apparently don't understand history here, but that's ok.
Demand for the Bronco was extremely high when reservations were converted to order. Dealers immediately added ADM onto reservation ORDERS (not just vehicles on their lot).
The allocation has always been a thing at Ford. Still, the level of popularity and lack of clarity around the reservation process led some people and dealers to believe that all reservations would get priority and be built regardless of allocation.
Remember, the demand was unprecedented; Ford took more reservations than they could build in 2021.
Everyone thought if you had a reservation, you were moved to the front of the line and NO ONE FROM FORD said differently. At least initially.
So dealers cut deals including below MSRP to get bronco reservation orders.
Then Ford did speak, saying all allocations were to be followed, ADM on Orders could negatively impact dealers, and basically pulled the rug out from dealers who cut deals and didn't have enough allocation, and the reservation owners that went there, because Ford made it hard to switch dealers. It was easier for 2021, but got impossible once Ford closed the order banks to new orders in late 2021 for 2022 MY.

What ford indicated in that document going around is that unscheduled orders will get scheduled. A dealer with insufficient allocation for all their unscheduled orders will have to decide, are they willing to take the hit on future allocations to get their current orders fulfilled?
Because any number over their allocation for these orders will get removed from their future allocations.

That's the read of the moment. More info will come out Tuesday for the dealers.

 

[1Pixie]

It's too bad, Ford cannot "estimate" the number of Broncos with certain trims they can make in a year before having people place their orders and upsetting them.

 

[mike8675309]

I have a Bronco Raptor on order and would like to know the answer to the question above.

Talk to your dealer. You shouldn't have an order for one from a dealer that doesn't have an allocation. That was a problem when the raptor first became available, but by now, if you still have an order, it should be allocated. not necessarily scheduled, but available to be scheduled.

 

[broncoj11]

Has Ford ever announced what the current order backlog actually looks like? It would be nice if they could say "we have xxxxx orders and we can only build yyyyy trucks by the end of the MY". Just a raw number like that, regardless of constraints would be nice to know. I get the feeling there is no way they are going to open the order banks for MY 2023 at this point.

They aren’t going to.

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