Raptor market becoming flooded!

[BlueBronco]

Flooded is a bit of an over exaggeration. More like people looking for an opportunity to flip if the price is right. I wouldn't expect the secondary market ADM's to ease up anytime soon.

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[Sonny]

I really want to buy one of these so I have been watching the ones for sale since they started showing up. Current search on Autotrader show a bunch of available BRaptors starting at 109k and up, there are a couple at 125k that have been there at least a month. Almost every few days another one shows up available on there. I have no issue paying 20k over for one and I and hoping they will get down there after the 1st of next year.

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/all-cars/ford/bronco/san-diego-ca-92134?dma=&searchRadius=0&trimCodeList=BRON|Raptor&location=&marketExtension=include&isNewSearch=false&showAccelerateBanner=false&sortBy=distanceASC&numRecords=25&firstRecord=25

You couldn’t pay me to make my Badlands look that crappy or sit that wide. I honestly don’t understand the appeal unless you’re a desert racer. It’s useless on trails around here because of its sheer width. It’s too wide to park in most parallel spaces around here. And ugly as fiat.

 

[craq5]

Supply vs Demand will always dictate the price. Pay or don't play (cars are never a good financial decision anyway) The term ADM is a buzz word that just pisses people off which I understand because dealer's are not supposed to make "too much" money..... If anyone owns a business they know you need to make profit while you can if someone willing to pay the price. They aren't non profit social workers lol...... in fact I would venture to say dealers are losing their asses with such low avail inventory of cars. Gotta make it when they can.

 

[FLSTFI Dave]

From Ford regarding the heritage LIMITED edition:
"Ford will limit production of the Bronco Heritage Limited Edition to 1,966 units "

There is no limit to the amount of Bronco Raptors that could be produce, the only thing causing ADMs is greedy people, and clowns willing to pay the ADM.. It's not that hard.

I do not see how 1,966 units is limited edition. I know that is what Ford Calls it. In my opinion, limited has to be way less than that. My Carbon 65 Grand Sport, 650 of the 65th anniversary cars built, 450 stayed in USA, 100 had a manual 7 speed like my car. Not even sure I classify it as limited edition, as anyone with money could duplicate it other than the number badge.

Completely agree on Raptor and ADM. I have never paid ADM on anything. In fact this Raptor is the first thing I have ever paid full MSRP. There is nothing I have to have so bad I'll spend ADM.

 

[Eddienass]

You couldn’t pay me to make my Badlands look that crappy or sit that wide. I honestly don’t understand the appeal unless you’re a desert racer. It’s useless on trails around here because of its sheer width. It’s too wide to park in most parallel spaces around here. And ugly as fiat.

You are saying the equivalent of a regular bmw 3 series owner claiming to not want the M3 bc it has the bucktooth grill, and something to the effect of the ride hight being “too low” for regular streets. Lol. Righttttt………u might as well say “I’m fine with my lesser vehicle Bc it has nicer fenders”. Lol.

 

[Eddienass]

From Ford regarding the heritage LIMITED edition:
"Ford will limit production of the Bronco Heritage Limited Edition to 1,966 units "

There is no limit to the amount of Bronco Raptors that could be produce, the only thing causing ADMs is greedy people, and clowns willing to pay the ADM.. It's not that hard.

You have no idea what your talking about. The f150 raptor has been selling w an ADM for a decade now. And……so your saying there will be limitless raptor available??? Lmao! No limit huh?…..ok master P. Furthermore…..clowns you say?! Is that what we are calling wealthy ppl now? Lol. Guy, the ultimate reason why ppl are paying the prices they are…..its the fact that this raptor is starting to be widely considered the best off roader EVER made! Professional off roaders/drivers, reviews and media is proclaiming this thing as absolutely awesome. Or as motortrend put it…..”TEN TIMES BETTER than a regular bronco”. You know…..like the one u have.

 

[brrke]

You have no idea what your talking about. The f150 raptor has been selling w an ADM for a decade now. And……so your saying there will be limitless raptor available??? Lmao! No limit huh?…..ok master P. Furthermore…..clowns you say?! Is that what we are calling wealthy ppl now? Lol. Guy, the ultimate reason why ppl are paying the prices they are…..its the fact that this raptor is starting to be widely considered the best off roader EVER made! Professional off roaders/drivers, reviews and media is proclaiming this thing as absolutely awesome. Or as motortrend put it…..”TEN TIMES BETTER than a regular bronco”. You know…..like the one u have.

I want what you're on. Send a link buddy.

 

[indio22]

Supply vs Demand will always dictate the price. Pay or don't play (cars are never a good financial decision anyway) The term ADM is a buzz word that just pisses people off which I understand because dealer's are not supposed to make "too much" money..... If anyone owns a business they know you need to make profit while you can if someone willing to pay the price. They aren't non profit social workers lol...... in fact I would venture to say dealers are losing their asses with such low avail inventory of cars. Gotta make it when they can.

I don't like ADM because it means big spending/rich people end up bogarting a larger portion of the vehicles, and I generally don't care for those kind of people. Right now the scene especially stinks, with big spenders buying multiple Broncos, while other people are unable to get even one. So I'll be glad in a year or two, when Bronco is a regular mass produced vehicle reasonably available to more people, regardless of connection/income.

Also car dealers are not hurting for profits:
https://www.motor1.com/news/589765/dealership-profits-at-record-levels-q1-2022/

 

[craq5]

I don't like ADM because it means big spending/rich people end up bogarting a larger portion of the vehicles, and I generally don't care for those kind of people. Right now the scene especially stinks, with big spenders buying multiple Broncos, while other people are unable to get even one. So I'll be glad in a year or two, when Bronco is a regular mass produced vehicle reasonably available to more people, regardless of connection/income.

Also car dealers are not hurting for profits:
https://www.motor1.com/news/589765/dealership-profits-at-record-levels-q1-2022/

Dealers made profits because of the margins they were able to attain by ADM due to limited amount of new cars. Used car sales proce increase margins plus PPP loans/forgiveness. If they didn't mark used and new cars up and sell for MSRP (like everyone thinks they should) the story would be totally different in my opinion and there would have been a lot of dealers losing their ass and shutting down.

 

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You are saying the equivalent of a regular bmw 3 series owner claiming to not want the M3 bc it has the bucktooth grill, and something to the effect of the ride hight being “too low” for regular streets. Lol. Righttttt………u might as well say “I’m fine with my lesser vehicle Bc it has nicer fenders”. Lol.

this is great. Don’t forget the “there’s nowhere to use all that horsepower”

 

[Sonny]

You are saying the equivalent of a regular bmw 3 series owner claiming to not want the M3 bc it has the bucktooth grill, and something to the effect of the ride hight being “too low” for regular streets. Lol. Righttttt………u might as well say “I’m fine with my lesser vehicle Bc it has nicer fenders”. Lol.

If I wanted a Raptor, I can afford one, even at ADM. Just because Ford calls something the best doesn’t mean it’s the best for every application. It would not do well on the narrow trails around here. The wider trucks never do. Honestly if you believe what you’re saying then you’re more of a sucker than most.

 

[Ground_zero298]

Best ever and so many for sale. Usually when I get something that’s the best ever I tend to hang onto it.

 

[Eddienass]

If I wanted a Raptor, I can afford one, even at ADM. Just because Ford calls something the best doesn’t mean it’s the best for every application. It would not do well on the narrow trails around here. The wider trucks never do. Honestly if you believe what you’re saying then you’re more of a sucker than most.

Stoppppp, lol. Just Bc I can afford an ADM doesn’t mean I’ll do it. “Affording it”. And having “F you money” is two different things…..and I personally don’t have the latter. BUT, being a GT holder and getting one at msrp…….you best believe I’ll be taking it. Lol. Bc it is HANDS DOWN the best bronco. Now I understand a “use case” scenario. BUT from your original post, it’s not just the fact that it’s “too wide”, Anyone can clearly see that there was a tinge of u hating on your post. Lol. And btw, the fact that only the track is wider……is less of an issue on these trails you speak of. Body is virtually the same. Tires and flares would get the worst of it. And btw, Ford isn’t the only one calling it the “best”. It’s anyone that has driven it. To quote motortrend “it’s ten times better than a regular bronco”. That’s including a Sasquatch…..which btw my wife has (and I love it). But the fact remains, this raptor has ppl twisted up…..whether its the jeepsters, or ppl that thought they were buying the “best” bronco over this last year or two. And you certainly seem like the latter.

 

[vrtical]

You can't order any Ford Performance or old SVT variant vehicle unless the dealer had/has the ability to, that is what causes these vehicle prices to what they usually are. Now the Braptor seems to be pushing the crazy button, but if you look at others, the current 22 GT500 Mustang Heritage is floating around 125k if you can find one and those MSRP just over 100k. Also regular 22 GT500s are hovering closer to 100k and those are 80k without CFTP. You can go back to the dawn of time like the 1995 Mustang Cobra R. 107 of them and at the time they were 80k if you had the creds. Now maybe 5000 a year isnt that rare, but they are still special order vehicles to begin with. Oh and I am keeping my 200k Bronco

 

[Eddienass]

Best ever and so many for sale. Usually when I get something that’s the best ever I tend to hang onto it.

What a misguided/child like comment. Try again. To most ppl, a 50% markup is significant money…….and receiving that type of MONEY is more important than having the best of something like this. Remember the market this thing is catering to…….It’s not an exotic car that say costs 250k, and can flip it for say 400k. By in large, these were regular reservation holders, in most cases looking to buy a 40-50 bronco! that just happened to win this golden ticket lotto. Comprendo??? Not too hard to understand.

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