So the Black Diamond and package options...

[Straight 6]

Builders not even live yet, there could be individual options available yet

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[Bronc-OH]

It's a dilemma that many are in however there is an easy fix. You have a few options:

1) Buy what you can afford and stick with the BD and lower options
2) Upgrade to the Badlands and pay extra now
3) Delay your purchase and continue to save until you can buy the trim and options you want

I decided on #3. I'm nearly debt free. I sold my Lincoln last month and don't have a car payment right now. I'm driving my 14 year old 230k mile Grand Cherokee and I'm continuing to save until I pick up my Bronco. I'm going with either the Badlands or Wildtrak with Lux.

5.7 or 4.7? No way you have 230k on a 3.7.

 

[aplm7]

I guess I might be the only one this naive, but aren't the Mid, High, and Lux Packages, just that: Packages? Meaning they bundled together a bunch of options and offer them at a discount through a Package, but buyers can bypass the Package route and order options a la carte?

Sure, the Base doesn't qualify for the Lux Package, but couldn't a buyer still order, separately, an item that is featured in the Lux Package? (Wouldn't it benefit Ford to sell buyers the 12" screen as an option, even if it would run $500+?)

Hidden costs I'm sure. Would $500 make up for the cost? How much extra complexity does it add to the assembly process when every order might have custom addons? That is extra cost to them. Also, they might have made the calculation that they make more just forcing people to upgrade to Badlands.

 

[Incognito]

I want to have the doors and top off 24/7 so need those vinyl seats

I live in Phoenix and am old enough to have owned a vinyl seated convertible.

The 2 door BD and a baseSquatch with the advanced TC are about the same price, but the BD's seats are huge turn off for me.

 

[Bullitt]

5.7 or 4.7? No way you have 230k on a 3.7.

I have the coveted 4.0L in-line, straight six AMC engine. Easy to work on and very reliable.

I think I'll keep it to see just how many miles I can get out of it.

 

[FishKzor]

Hidden costs I'm sure. Would $500 make up for the cost? How much extra complexity does it add to the assembly process when every order might have custom addons? That is extra cost to them. Also, they might have made the calculation that they make more just forcing people to upgrade to Badlands.

It could add some complexity, but living in a post-Tesla world, where you can build and order your car in any option configuration you want, and Ford boasting about the customizing features of the Bronco, you would think the factory-installed customized options would be a lucrative feature to bringing back the Bronco in the first place. Part of the drawl of the Bronco would be its ability to be built from the ground up, optioned out as any buyer sees fit. Plus rolling over the costs into the Ford financing, versus giving that money to outside aftermarket companies seems like a huge misstep, financially, for Ford.

 

[Bronc-OH]

I have the coveted 4.0L in-line, straight six AMC engine. Easy to work on and very reliable.

I think I'll keep it to see just how many miles I can get out of it.

wj crew nice. I was thinking wk. My 00 4.7 is at 146k. I pray to get 200 out of it.

 

[MCG DAWG]

You're not going to be watching movies on it. That 8 inch screen will do you just fine.

Now, on the 360 cameras . . . yeah you're in a tough spot there. That'a LOT of money of upgrades just to get that. I can understand your frustration.

 

[zaki]

I think most Bronco customers would be happier with fewer trim levels but more stand alone option availability to truly make the Bronco they want and not the one they either settled for nor one they were forced to upgrade to.

 

[BuckeyeinNV]

FWIW you can add the 360 cam to the 2021 F150 XL trim that also has the 8" screen, so there's definitely hope you'll be able to do that on the Bronco.

 

[BroncoJay]

Hell Id rather buy the base but the vinyl and rubberized floors are a huge selling point for me, plus I think the BD is a little bit best both worlds for me- middle of the road so to speak. Priced well enough where I can upgrade to the squatch and V6 and maybe the
Mid package...
I think the BD will be an well equipped rig for almost anyone..

 

[Rydfree]

I guess I might be the only one this naive, but aren't the Mid, High, and Lux Packages, just that: Packages? Meaning they bundled together a bunch of options and offer them at a discount through a Package, but buyers can bypass the Package route and order options a la carte?

I am hoping that is the case as it would make more sense to do it that way . Of course car makers make cars , not sense .

 

[Mainerunr]

I guess I might be the only one this naive, but aren't the Mid, High, and Lux Packages, just that: Packages? Meaning they bundled together a bunch of options and offer them at a discount through a Package, but buyers can bypass the Package route and order options a la carte?

Sure, the Base doesn't qualify for the Lux Package, but couldn't a buyer still order, separately, an item that is featured in the Lux Package? (Wouldn't it benefit Ford to sell buyers the 12" screen as an option, even if it would run $500+?)

Unfortunately, usually not. They do not offer most things a la carte, you have to buy the package to get what you want (and usually a few things you do not want). Unless Ford does something different than they currently do on any other vehicle, no, a base will not be able to order some specific option from the "Lux" package, that option simply will not be available at all on a base trim level. That is how they get people to move up to a higher trim level. Otherwise, people would just buy base with the specific options they want and ultimately would spend thousands less.

At least the packages are the same across trim levels (even though not all packages are available for every trim level). With F150's, the packages differ depending on what trim level you get. For example, an XLT can have 300a, 301a or 302a but a Lariat can have 500a, 501a or 502a and 302a and 502a are not the same options (because the lariat comes with most of the 302a options by default but it also costs more than the XLT +302a...and it also "unlocks" other options that are not available on the XLT at all).

 

[Villageidit]

wj crew nice. I was thinking wk. My 00 4.7 is at 146k. I pray to get 200 out of it.

My 02 Ram with 4.7 had 187K when I sold it. Was still running strong. Started 1st touch every time even below zero. Great engine.

 

[Bronc-OH]

My 02 Ram with 4.7 had 187K when I sold it. Was still running strong. Started 1st touch every time even below zero. Great engine.

Did the dodge engines have the same cooling issues that wj's did? Might only affect the HO models dropping valves or blowing gaskets.

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