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This is kind of true, you won’t see people complaining here about a well working car. But the same can be said about other forums with other car models. So when reading and comparing issues from both forums, if sales statistics are similar you can certainly gauge the frequency and severity of...

First year production for the 4Runner is also a concern of mine, but seeing that they’re being built in the same legendary factory as the LC and GX I’m not Overly concerned. If anything they’ve probably over engineered this one to avoid any issues that can taint that factory reputation.

I totally agree with you, a larger crossover of some type would be more than adequate for us. What’s still drawing me to a body on frame is the overbuilt aspect of it. We do have a cottage with backroads that can be challenging in our winters, and I like the idea of having the capability to tow...

I have actually looked at the new Passport Trailsport, it looks fantastic. The V6 and the AWD was a big draw for me. I haven’t seen the prices yet though but I think it’s going to come in around the same as SR5 if not a little more. I’ve never had a body on frame before and I’d like to...

Ya it sounds like you've done your research like me lol. The non-hybrid is quite formidable due to lower weight, is probably less complicated to service (just speculating on this as I'm not a mechanic), and maybe will have more options for tunes down the road. I'm tempted to wait longer as well...

MSRP on the SR5, I also inquired about the LC 1958 and he was only willing to give me free tires with it. I don't think people are getting discounts on the new 4runner anywhere, if anything probably some small markups in the USA. I kind of see the SR5 as a "bare bones" LC Prado, you get the...

This is pretty much perfectly summed up, and I agree with you. I actually just put a deposit on an SR5 yesterday, but I'm monitoring the 2025 Broncos very close to see if Ford it going to throw us a discount. If they can provide some kind of decent discount off msrp I could very well jump ship...

I feel like since the issue has already picked up on the issue from the Tacoma, there's no way they'd release the 4Runner with the same issue. On the contrary actually, I bet they inspected it to death and over engineered it to avoid the same issue from happening.

Oh maybe because of the folds/angles? The back of the bronco is my most hated angle because it looks like a Jeep

I just went to look at a pic and I don't see it. Are you referring to the Mud bath color?

Where have I been? I have been on all the forums, and have obviosuly heard about the Toyota issues, but that was one isolated issue that's been resolved. I bet after that issue Toyota is on QC overdrive as well, to retain their long standing reputation. The bronco on the other hand, from what...

Can't find a single 2024 4 door manual around my area here, and they won't apply the 5k discount to the 2025 models. Toyota doesn't do markups in my area either. I love the Bronco but my logic is telling me to go with the new 4Runner.

Party starter perhaps? Maybe it's the weather over there in FL

I'm trying to decide between the new SR5 and a bronco base / big bend. All the little headache issues like cracking tops, window leaks, manual transmission noises etc are pushing me to a first year SR5.

The new SR5 is way under both of those. It has the non-hybrid iforce turbo engine. Some may prefer it actually with less "complication". This engine has also been used in the LC abroad in other countries for some years now. It's only until you jump into the higher 4Runner trims that the prices...

Thanks for this info. You had 4WD failure under 30k miles? Is that not quite unusual?

I brought up noise in one of my five points, not to ask if there is noise, but to see if there’s been any improvements over the last 4 years. I’m well aware of what I’m buying and that this is not a hermetically sealed Mercedes. It’s also my least “concern”, I’d be more worried about the other...

I did see your previous post, and I thought you were me exactly lol. I also watched that entire Land Cruiser video a few days ago. I don't have the big cash for the GX, and could probably swing an LC 250 but would make me feel uncomfortable. I'm aiming to buy the new 2025 4Runner SR5 due to...

I'm very, very close to putting a deposit down on a Bronco build, but after sifting through posts on the forum I have some reliability concerns. I wanted to check in with owners to see if some of these issues have been fixed on current models or on the newer 2025's. I'm after a manual...

Oh I would buy the 2025 bronco over the older 5th gen 4Runner all day. Apparently the new 6th Gen just released drives entirely different, vastly improved in all areas. They're also build in Japan at the same factory as the Land Cruiser and Lexus GX models, not in Mexico like the Tacoma. As...