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Others have posted this here but I think it bares repeating, if you're feeling aggrieved, file a complaint with your local AG. It's possible a DA or AG will go after John or other owners personally for fraud. Could make it much harder for them to get a business license in the future and try to...

Couldn't agree more, hard to imagine anyone knowing this story and giving these fraudsters money.

Well there you have it, we officially have a class action suit underway. Which I guess is good, insofar as its probably the best possible outcome at this point. I think it means this is next: Followed by this: Unfortunately, agree, it seems unlikely ADV will have much money left at the end...

Well, I received my money back via chargeback, the dispute is not closed, so ADV can still counter, but I can't imagine what they'd say. Anyone else have luck on a chargeback? (and sorry for anyone that's outside the CB window and facing the real prospect of never getting your money back, I do...

I had the same thought. It struck me as very strange they shared the full lawsuit. In part because it made it crystal clear of ADVs deceit. They shared the lawsuit saying, "look how serious we're taking this!", but it just made them look worse... It's how I discovered Johns email to me 2 days...

Indeed its starting to look a lot like a pyramid scheme.

If, like me, you believe ADV was knowingly misrepresenting its ability to deliver these tops (you might say fraud), I'd encourage you to report them to Shopify, their credit card merchant. https://www.shopify.com/legal/tools/report-an-issue/fraud

Worse still, they totally missed the actual story. They didn't talk about the legal letter and the fact that ADV has known about the APG issue for months, maybe longer, and they've been selling tops in the meantime, while continuing to tell people, like me, that my top was "cruising through...

Advance Fiberglass Concepts are fraudsters and will not have a business anymore at the end of this. I browsed the legal complaint they linked to and I'll let it tell part of the story. "Over the course of approximately two (2) years from February 2022 through March 2024, Plaintiff paid...

Advance Fiberglass Concepts are fraudsters. I browsed the legal complaint they linked to and I'll let it tell part of the story. "Over the course of approximately two (2) years from February 2022 through March 2024, Plaintiff paid Defendants nearly $4.4 million to produce and ship hundreds of...