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they worked when on the relay so I would say yes to whether they work off the battery.

No, no lights at all. i bought the harness for the headlight because I wasn’t going to bust into that, and it works for other lights. i can disconnect the backlights to see what that does, nut seems so odd to not work.

No lights. no backlight or main with switch…which is why i tried a new ground. Well I can disconnect backlight and see if main will work.. yeah I bought the harness to do the backlight because I would not attempt to ‘patch’ into the headlight, and it is working on my fog lights. Didn’t want it...

Originally I wired it using the standard ss3 harness with a relay going to the battery positive and negative and the activation on the aux switch.. But it had a ton of extra wire wound up in the corner. So based on what I seen here an other posts I understood we did not need the relay. So I cut...

Well that failed. I connected red to aux switch, blue to headlight, and black to ground and it did not work, and the a pillar was working before removing the relay. I just wanted it cleaner. Not sure what i did wrong.

Thanks for the insight. I'm coming late to the party but very helpful. Are all the switches strong enough for the lights? If you wire the backlight to the low beams will that cause an issue without the relay? I'm no electrician but assume the relay is to manage the higher power from the...