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I referring to what is in stock at least 10 2 doors and only 1-2 4 doors in most dealers I have looked into. Nobody wants the stubby version, same goes with the Defender all the 2 doors are heavily discounted.

Because all the 2 doors are sitting on dealer lots

How about just delivering on 2021-22 models....make it so we can get a painted "finished" hard top on a Bronco....enough with "variants" we can never have...

Yes, Rivian will fall under "other EV companies".

I would love to be on your side of this but not happening because the dealership lobbyists are huge in DC but more in local state governments. Tesla and some other EV companies are getting away with it but so far no (new) gas powered vehicles are sold this way. I say (new) because all those...

My build on a OB or BL came to 54-58k with basic options any 2020 car should have....yikes and to know there is no discounting I might as well go with a Lux car or Defender.

Ford says the 4 door version is 189.4 inches is that with the spare tire? I assume yes because there is no other location for the spare and I wonder which tire seeing the different tire options range greatly in width.