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Define worthless?

If you don't like the ADM then go to another dealer.

But that the are holding the MSRP while inflation is growing rapidly is not worthless.
It's worthless because it has no value. The price is between the dealership and you, whatever Ford calls the MRSP has no bearing on that.
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Hope I'm not repeating something already stated somewhere in the last 40+ pages of responses, but am I understanding correctly that if a reservation holder of a hard top Bronco doesn't already have a production date (excluding First Edition), then they will NOT receive a '21 Bronco and will roll into the '22 model?
 

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Does anyone know if you can change from 2door to 4door? No sure if this has been asked
 

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What I am saying is since they will push out as many soft tops as possible, they are going to run into a shortage by the time they get to the hard tops. This chip issue will go well into March and if Ford could they would only build superduty’s, f-150’s, and transits.
I understand - my initial response still holds, sadly. Ford has demonstrated again and again during this launch that when **** turns south the people who get hosed are the early adopters. They aren't going to hold chips for the FEs.
 

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Not an option. I will leave mine as is, and be looking for another vehicle in the meantime. If i find something else beforehand, i will cancel my order, get my refund and make sure my dealer cancels the order so they can't capitalize on my misery.
Exactly..make sure they do cancel..I cancelled mine and bought a jeep 4 weeks ago..still listed on my orders page and I am still get the stickers and other pacifying junk ford is sending..pretty sure my dealer plans on selling it..but if it gets delivered I will go claim it...
 

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Anyone else find it annoying that they are prioritizing the ones already delivered, where they are most likely sitting in garages and not stranded on a lot by a dirt mountain? One would think they’d take care of the ones parked at map for a month over the ones that have already been delivered and being enjoyed by the costumers. Why not care of the purgatory builds and then send out replacements to those already delivered. After all at least they get to drive theirs
Ford can’t control what it doesn’t own. People can only speculate the condition of their possible build in some dirt lot.
Owners can post away on their top’s conditions up to the day it’s replaced.
 

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Can I get a soft top and hardtop prep with my FE please
 

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I anticipated a 2022 MY anyway with my options and 7/14 res. I just want to know my color and interior choices.

To anyone with theirs stuck on the lot, we've gotten a LOT of rain in Michigan the last few days, inspect thoroughly when you receive it for mold and mildew.
New color for '22. LotRot Green.
 

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Doing some back of the napkin math. All of these are guesses. Anyone else have some more solid numbers?
The number of MIC tops needed:
- FE - Builds = 7,000 (this includes delivered, dirt pit and to be built FE's)
- Dirt Pit (MAP hostage) Broncos = Say 2,000 (excluding FE's above)
- Already delivered hard top Broncos = Say 3,000 (excluding FE's above).
- 2021 VIN generated but not built Bronco's (scheduled in June and July with delayed production) = Say 6,000

That totals to 18,000 Bronco hard tops needed to complete 2021 production.

When will Webasto production of the new improved MIC tops begin? IDK, lets use October 11.

How many tops can Webasto produce per day? IDK lets use 500 per day. and figure the plant is running 6 days a week just to be optimistic. That would be 3,000 tops per week or six weeks of production to build the 18,000 tops with no disruptions.

That takes up to Thanksgiving to produce the needed tops for 2021 production.

If Ford produces 2021 Broncos into the first week or two of December then I think they can get everything above accomplished. But, there isn't any wiggle room (unless Webasto can somehow produce more than 500 tops per day).
 

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What are the chances that Bestop or another Manufacturer of hard tops has one available next year for those who decide to get a soft top now? We already know Ford and Webasto can't.
 

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Fords legal team ensured they only cop to “cosmetic” defects. But does this really shield them from any damage incurred from rattling , delaminating, and leaky mic tops? 🤔
 

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I can't thank you all enough for posting here. I'm getting ZERO info from dealer- even when asking questions addressed here. If it wasn't for this forum I'd be ABSOLUTELY in the dark... and walking to work!
 

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4) Give the people involved with this a break. I’m betting they have been working non-stop, 80 hrs weeks and are beyond exhausted. When I did this work it was not uncommon for me to come home at the end of the day, lay down in the middle of the living room floor and fall asleep. You don’t know what this is like and frankly, most of you aren’t up to handling it.
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So what you're saying is, people are working overtime to the extent that they're so exhausted, they're more prone to making mistakes in that state of mental and physical fatigue, in order to fix a mistake?

Sounds delicious and EXACTLY what I would want from a make-good.
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