10 Highest ADM

[redone17]

I recently got offered a 4DR Big Bend to hold us over for $5k over…seems like a deal compared to some of these:

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Sad that some with expendable income will feed the greed and jump on these without looking back.

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[604Bronco]

I recently got offered a 4DR Big Bend to hold us over for $5k over…seems like a deal compared to some of these:

Top 10

Sad that some with expendable income will feed the greed and jump on these without looking back.

There will always be someone that pays big bucks just to get the newest, fanciest thing.

I’d definitely contemplate a slight mark-up if I came across my exact build somewhere on a dealers lot. Maybe $5k (CDN) more? But other than that, they can pound sand…

By the way, your posted link is kind of “click bait” so those of you who want to save yourself the time:

#10: $10,715 ADM

#1: $44,803 ADM

 

[Bronco_joe]

Cmon these markups are insane. Who in their right mind would pay thar

 

[redone17]

Not clickbait, it shares info for dealer shaming. Haha.

 

[604Bronco]

Not clickbait, it shares info for dealer shaming. Haha.

And I do appreciate that lol. It said it’s click-bait-like (in nature.)

Sadly, these dealers don’t care and likely welcome the advertising… There’s no such thing as bad publicity and such… *sigh*

 

[Efthreeoh]

So this is problematic. I verified that Ray Silkman Ford has the Yellow Badlands, 2-door, manual trans on its website inventory and is delivered, ready for purchase. ADM is $25K. There has to be someone who ordered this exact build or near build out of the 130,000 or so reservations that converted to orders. I know that my Black Diamond could have been built ahead of this Bronco since the BL is nearly the same equipment wise regarding the interior and MIC top. I'm number 6 or 9 out of my Dealership's allocation. So this is evidence that priority of builds to reservationist-orders (pre-orders) to be filled before dealer stock is not being well controlled if MIC tops are the long-pole commodity constraint for 2-door versions. The June 26th email indicated that commodity constraints were forcing Ford to manufacture configurations that did not meet any customer pre-orders. Considering the issue is mostly MIC tops, both 2 and 4-door models, one could consider there are some 4-door soft-top only builds being manufactured that go to dealership inventory. I can accept that situation and understand why.

But this specific case with Silkman Ford is a bit troublesome.

 

[redone17]

So this is evidence that priority of builds to reservationist-orders (pre-orders) to be filled before dealer stock is not being well controlled if MIC tops are the long-pole commodity constraint for 2-door versions. The June 26th email indicated that commodity constraints were forcing Ford to manufacture configurations that did not meet any customer pre-orders. Considering the issue is mostly MIC tops, both 2 and 4-door models, one could consider there are some 4-door soft-top only builds being manufactured that go to dealership inventory. I can accept that situation and understand why.

I’d wager that a majority of these are converted orders without commitment and that the dealers don’t care about the slap on the wrist. They were not built with intention to be dealer stock.

This is why it was always my opinion that Ford should have required $1000 non-refundable deposit upon order by the March 15 deadline.

 

[604Bronco]

I’d wager that a majority of these are converted orders without commitment and that the dealers don’t care about the slap on the wrist. They were not built with intention to be dealer stock.

This is why it was always my opinion that Ford should have required $1000 non-refundable deposit upon order by the March 15 deadline.

I also think the ADM that we’re seeing will off-set any slap on the wrist from Ford to the dealerships. They’ll still come out ahead once the dust has settled…

 

[Efthreeoh]

I’d wager that a majority of these are converted orders without commitment and that the dealers don’t care about the slap on the wrist. They were not built with intention to be dealer stock.

This is why it was always my opinion that Ford should have required $1000 non-refundable deposit upon order by the March 15 deadline.

I can believe that somewhat, but my understanding is all pre-orders are tied to an actual customer and Ford has the customer's name in their database via the initial $100 credit card deposit tied to a VIN upon build scheduling. Surely the dealership could have an employee do a bogus reservation using their credit card, but the 80% genuine sales requirement was supposed to curtail such activity. However, with Ford now supposedly building dealership stock units because commodity constraints are not allowing pre-order builds, one would think the 80% rule is now not enforceable, or at lease allows for sales shenanigans such as Ray Silkman Ford.

While I have no understanding how the Dealership franchise relationship is with FoMoCo, it seems to me Ford could do an audit of pre-order customers to dealership employee roster by name, if FoMoCo were to request dealership employee information. I would think, considering the tenuous situation Ford finds itself with reservation/preorder customers dissatisfaction of the build and delivery scheduling protocols, it would not be unreasonable for Ford to threaten pulling franchise licenses over the case where the Dealership knowingly created fake pre-orders in an effort to build dealership lot stock with the intention to sell with ADM.

Considering the situation where Ford indicates it now can't build pre-orders in advance of generic dealership stock (i.e. non-ordered builds due to commodity constraints), I have no issue with a dealer selling those Broncos with ADM; it is a free market after all. But if the Badlands 2-door Bronco at Silkman Ford could have filled another dealership's pre-order allocation, that is quite problematic, because it is (a) pure dishonesty on the part of the dealership, and (b) Ford has created an intolerable situation of controlling distribution of manufactured units to those customers that ordered a Bronco in good faith with FoMoCo.

This is more evidence that the cyberlaunch model created by Tesla, does not work for automobile manufacturers that use a franchise store model to sell its products.

 

[Efthreeoh]

I’d wager that a majority of these are converted orders without commitment and that the dealers don’t care about the slap on the wrist. They were not built with intention to be dealer stock.

This is why it was always my opinion that Ford should have required $1000 non-refundable deposit upon order by the March 15 deadline.

I also think the ADM that we’re seeing will off-set any slap on the wrist from Ford to the dealerships. They’ll still come out ahead once the dust has settled…

And I agree, Ford should have required a non-refundable* $1,000 deposit upon ordering and kept the funds in escrow, only to be transferred to dealership upon the actual sales transaction at delivery to the customer.

* unless the customer died and his heirs present a death certificate to have the $1,000 refunded. Considering how long it may take to get a Bronco, some customers are probably going to die waiting.

 

[Erock]

And I agree, Ford should have required a non-refundable* $1,000 deposit upon ordering and kept the funds in escrow, only to be transferred to dealership upon the actual sales transaction at delivery to the customer.

* unless the customer died and his heirs present a death certificate to have the $1,000 refunded. Considering how long it may take to get a Bronco, some customers are probably going to die waiting.

I feel like I resemble this comment... lol

my father passed away (no worries, we didn’t get along)... but it’s the effect on my mom we’re having to deal with. My son has been staying with her, so he’s been driving crazy miles back and forth to work. With that, his truck broke down so I had to use up what little I had saved towards the Bronco to get him a car. Now I’m sorta undecided as to whether I’ll even get the Bronco or not. Guess it depends on whether the stars align properly over the next few months. Think I’ll go ahead and 99 mine next week, although I was already expecting it to be a ‘22 anyway

 

[bronco2drga]

If my dealer tries to charge me over MSRP I'll walk and give up my 7/15 reservation date. It will be frustrating and sad to do this, but I'm not dealing with crooked people.

Here are other things to consider.

1.) Year one broncos may have issues that could potentially require new owners to go back to the dealership many times in the first 12 months or so (lets hope not, but it's new and things happen and/or are figured out along the way).

2.) 2022 and on my offer better choices (ie. sasquatch with a manual, more color options, etc.)

3.) If you ever wanted to change something on your order and it was too late you have a second chance.

4.) You can always pick up a Rubicon Wrangler at a potentially better price than bronco + BS ADM increases.

5.) If you do walk, rumor has it (from what I have read on here) that every dealer has to get 80% of the broncos to reservation holders or there is some type of penalty, be it loss of future allocations or whatever (I have no idea, but am curious to hear).

6.) If you are dead set on the bronco, you can give you put in your next Bronco order with Granger (a dealer with ethics and professionalism)


Just my two cents.

 

[Sherminiator]

The phrase a penny wise, a pound foolish comes to mind. They might be able to make money upfront with an ADM on current product they have, but the only real weapon Ford has is pull allocation from those same dealers doing that.

Say a dealership has a Bronco and has some stupid ADM on it and someone bitches about it-Ford could be like, ok you where allocated 10 Broncos for the 22MY (just an example) Ford can pull that down to half or less as "punishment" to that dealership. Long term that will hurt the dealership (how much I don't know) because they won't have an in demand product to sell.

 

[Gamecock]

I have no problem with a dealer charging ADM on an order that is refused by a legitimate reservation holder…what else would they do with it? People are lined up to buy it and the market value right now is higher than the sticker. Dealers banking on having some not picked up that they can tack ADM on, allowed for the great deals out there…so no problemo here. I’m picking mine up and prices is locked in.

 

[Bronco4lyfe85]

Not clickbait, it shares info for dealer shaming. Haha.

You’re linking to a website for this. Gtfo with this, “iTs NoT cLicKbaIt.” If it wasn’t you would just post the figures.

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