Ram trying to steal some thunder...

[BuckeyeinNV]

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[BuckeyeinNV]

Some highlights:
702 hp 650 torque
2.5" lift 35" Wrangler Territories
starting price $70,000
2021 ordering starts tomorrow
Bilstein active shocks - very similar to the Raptor
1300 lb payload, 8100 lb towing

Shots fired in the launch video, it had a clip from Jurassic Park of a T-Rex eating a Raptor

 

[BuckeyeinNV]

Oh yeah, build and price already up. WTF Ford? lol

 

[rjkmoto]

Ram is trash, I had to have 3 new 1500s as loaners one time, each one threw a check engine light and they were NEW. Rams IMO have always 'looked' good from the outside but their interior is trash and they are always playing catch up with the drive train.

Says the guy who never owned one.

I owned a used 2004 Big Horn not one major problem and it’s still running around with almost 170k on it.

And I traded a ‘14 1500 Crew Cab with the Pentastar for my Gladiator. Had one warranty item (tailgate latch) in the 6 years I owned it.

AskToyota about their Taco frames? Or Ford about their Pinto?

Point is ALL manufacturers have issues. It’s the nature of building sh*t and building sh*t fast on a large scale. ?‍

JK

 

[GetBucked]

I hope that this is the pineapple to our pizza!! ????

 

[lowmpg]

Says the guy who never owned one.

I owned a used 2004 Big Horn not one major problem and it’s still running around with almost 170k on it.

And I traded a ‘14 1500 Crew Cab with the Pentastar for my Gladiator. Had one warranty item (tailgate latch) in the 6 years I owned it.

AskToyota about their Taco frames? Or Ford about their Pinto?

Point is ALL manufacturers have issues. It’s the nature of building sh*t and building sh*t fast on a large scale. ?‍

JK

Been in plenty, all were taken back with engine codes. Thought I explained that And neh, three having the same issue, that isn't a fluke. Not to mention their near continuous rusting out wells because of poorly designed fender flares. I've had 4 trucks, all Fords, none have had an issue. Not like it matters though, I'm sure Ram will build what it wants minus my 70K.

 

[rjkmoto]

Says the guy who never owned one.

JK

Been in plenty, all were taken back with engine codes. Thought I explained that And neh, three having the same issue, that isn't a fluke. Not to mention their near continuous rusting out wells because of poorly designed fender flares. I've had 4 trucks, all Fords, none have had an issue. Not like it matters though, I'm sure Ram will build what it wants minus my 70K.

Borrowing three isn’t owning one. The wheel wells are plastic lined. ?‍?

JK

 

[93_SVT_3503]

 

[lowmpg]

Borrowing three isn’t owning one. The wheel wells are plastic lined. ?‍?

JK

Whatever they were all POS, hence why I never owned one. Not going to debate why I should have bought something with check engine lights flashing.

 

[rjkmoto]

Whatever they were all POS, hence why I never owned one. Not going to debate why I should have bought something with check engine lights flashing.

Not saying you should have bought one - just saying it’s always the people who don’t own the thing that have the biggest opinions on that thing. And I find that amusing. ?‍

Glad you are happy with the Fords, more power to ya. ?

JK

 

[Sighlense]

702 hp 650 torque

Meh, if i wanted that i'd get the GT500. I'd also rather a Raptor than a Chrysler product. To each their own....

 

[BroncoKong Jr.]

It's a Chrysler. Just like the Jeep of the new age... Terrible reliability.

But more reliable than Ford

I was wrong, bros

 

[Spooled]

97k fully optioned. ooooooof

 

[That_Hal]

But more reliable than Ford

Show me that? Jeep has terrible ratings year after year.

https://www.motorbiscuit.com/the-jeep-wrangler-is-one-of-the-most-unreliable-cars-of-2020/

 

[BroncoKong Jr.]

Show me that? Jeep has terrible ratings year after year.

https://www.motorbiscuit.com/the-jeep-wrangler-is-one-of-the-most-unreliable-cars-of-2020/

I was referring to this:

But upon second viewing it's initial quality. Not sure about overall reliability.

But Ford just had to recall 60,000 cars.

edit: From February:

The most dependable brands (problems per 100 vehicles):

1. Genesis (80)
2. Lexus (100)
3. Buick (103)
4. Porsche (104)
5. Toyota (113)
6. Volkswagen (116)
7. Lincoln (119)
8. BMW (123)
9. Chevrolet (123)
10. Ford (126)
11. Mazda (130)
12. Cadillac (131)
13. Hyundai (132)
14. Kia (132)
15. Audi (136)
16. Nissan (136)
17. Acura (139)
18. Honda (139)
19. Ram (140)
20. Mitsubishi (146)
21. Mini (147)
22. Mercedes-Benz (152)
23. Subaru (154)
24. Infiniti (155)
25. Dodge (158)
26. Jeep (159)
27. Fiat (160)
28. GMC (162)
29. Volvo (185)
30. Jaguar (186)
31. Chrysler (214)
32. Land Rover (220)

So you're right. Ford is way ahead of Ram.

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